The end of the herf as we know it?

[PeeJay]

Some of us make the effort to get together for a herf and the favoured location is usually a pub garden somewhere. I know the Mail Online is not everyone's favourite news source but according to a leaked report from Westminster the government is planning to ban outdoor smoking in pub gardens as well as other locations. Before we all start berating Labour this was apparently proposed by Rishi under his plans to extinguish smoking in the UK. I love to smoke outside coffee shops and that will certainly be banned too. Guess we'll all be hosting herfs in our gardens next year.

[ha_banos]

Writing was on the wall. It was only a matter of time. We are not alone https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67545363.amp

[Simon Bolivar]

It was mentioned on the BBC Breakfast show this morning, obviously Pub Gardens, alerted me. Can see it coming in because the people passing the laws don't use these facilities or own pubs. The initial smoking ban resulted in thousands of pubs closing & banning them from smoking outside will close more. It's in the open air FFS nothing to do with cancer or other illness, just kill joys. The bigger smokers are the bigger drinkers & will end up doing both at home, in front of the kids. Compared with the 6million UK Smokers left, I think they should be doing more to ban flavours in vapes, obviously aimed at children, like alcohol pops was to attract youngsters, who didn't really like the taste of alcohol.

Looks like my investment in my very own Cigar Lounge, wasn't so crazy after all!

[oskihen]

It was mentioned on the BBC Breakfast show this morning, obviously Pub Gardens, alerted me. Can see it coming in because the people passing the laws don't use these facilities or own pubs. The initial smoking ban resulted in thousands of pubs closing & banning them from smoking outside will close more. It's in the open air FFS nothing to do with cancer or other illness, just kill joys. The bigger smokers are the bigger drinkers & will end up doing both at home, in front of the kids. Compared with the 6million UK Smokers left, I think they should be doing more to ban flavours in vapes, obviously aimed at children, like alcohol pops was to attract youngsters, who didn't really like the taste of alcohol.

Looks like my investment in my very own Cigar Lounge, wasn't so crazy after all!

Smoking will eventually be banned everywhere. What irks me the most is the dictatorship. Eg as cigar smokers we should be able to have our own private members smoking club. We are all consenting adults and have free will.

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[PeeJay]

Smoking will eventually be banned everywhere. What irks me the most is the dictatorship. Eg as cigar smokers we should be able to have our own private members smoking club. We are all consenting adults and have free will.

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Like they do in Manhattan, you can't smoke in public parks or within 100 feet of doorways like offices and hotels but they still have cigar lounges like Club Macanudo

[Cigar_Addict]

It was mentioned on the BBC Breakfast show this morning, obviously Pub Gardens, alerted me. Can see it coming in because the people passing the laws don't use these facilities or own pubs. The initial smoking ban resulted in thousands of pubs closing & banning them from smoking outside will close more. It's in the open air FFS nothing to do with cancer or other illness, just kill joys. The bigger smokers are the bigger drinkers & will end up doing both at home, in front of the kids. Compared with the 6million UK Smokers left, I think they should be doing more to ban flavours in vapes, obviously aimed at children, like alcohol pops was to attract youngsters, who didn't really like the taste of alcohol.

Looks like my investment in my very own Cigar Lounge, wasn't so crazy after all!

If this really happens I hope it will lead to more smoking 'lounges', but can't see that either what with the price of cigars continually on the rise

[Kickback]

Not being banned at home so herfs and BBQ at someone’s gaff 😎

[grumpybaldy]

Not being banned at home so herfs and BBQ at someone’s gaff 😎

...yet

[RobBooth]

The state continues its push, getting more and more intrusive in the name of 'health' or 'safety'. I'm always mindful of where I sit when I'm smoking in a pub garden, why can't they just leave things be.
As is said above I see vapes as a bigger problem (true, I am biased) but they're everywhere and without warning you find yourself enveloped in a big plume of exhaled vape. At least with cigars / cigarettes there's normally a visual indication and smoke which allows people to avoid it. The idea that they're not as bad as tobacco has people using them everywhere - I've seen people on planes, on buses, on trains and in stadiums (bloke in front of me last weekend) using them without care.

[PeeJay]

Pub garden smoking ban 'will be DROPPED' after Britons slammed the plans and accused 'nanny state' Government of taking away people's freedom

• READ: Should smoking in pub gardens and outdoor restaurants be banned?

By CLAIRE ELLICOTT WHITEHALL EDITOR and KATHERINE LAWTON

PUBLISHED: 19:40, 24 October 2024 | UPDATED: 21:08, 24 October 2024

A ban on smoking in outdoor spaces, such as pub beer gardens, could be abandoned.

The Government is said to be 'spooked' by warnings from the hospitality industry that the measure could lead to job losses and pub closures.

It has reportedly stepped in to remove the policy from the Tobacco and Vapes Bill which is yet to be published, according to the Guardian.


The paper reported that No 10 privately believes that banning people from smoking in pub beer gardens is 'an unserious' policy that is not backed up by good evidence.

They are said to be worried by the fierce opposition from the hospitality trade which was prompted by the plans.

Full article here: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-freedom.html

[oskihen]

At last some good news. Common sense prevails

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[TJ:01]

It was never going to be a vote winner was it. They should come after the vapers more though... as someone who teaches, you can't tell me all those flavours like 'Cherry Cola', 'Watermelon' etc aren't aimed at kids, especially with all the bright colours that look like highlighters!

[Cigar_Addict]

It was never going to be a vote winner was it. They should come after the vapers more though... as someone who teaches, you can't tell me all those flavours like 'Cherry Cola', 'Watermelon' etc aren't aimed at kids, especially with all the bright colours that look like highlighters!

Unfortunately I fear the governments concerns over health are secondary. It's usually about how much tax it makes them

[Simon Bolivar]

I put my money on this idea not going through. If you remember 'Yes Minister' Sir Bernard told the PM how to get unpopular policy through. You come up with a more outrageous one, it causes outrage, eventually you remove that one, 'having listened to the people' & the rest slide through as seemingly not so bad.