40th Drink

[groundhog]

For less money http://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/P-18245.aspx

Was it from the cask untimely ripped?

[tommy]

Tbh if I'm gonna buy a spirit from 40 years ago I'd get a cognac as that's what I drink anyway. Also there are some I'd like to try anyway. I am keen to try whisky a more but this isn't a good time to start blind.

[butternutsquashpie]

Tommy... you'd want a sweet one.
But not citrusy - so not Dalmore or Cragganmore.
Sweet but not burnt - so not Auchentoshan or Springbank.

Perhaps another lowland like Hazelburn. Or perhaps just the standard Glenfiddie?

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[ValeTudoGuy]

Never tried a armangnac always wanted to because i like cognac are there flavour profiles similar


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They are both brandy so there are similarities... Armagnac is distilled only once so retains more of the original fruits influence, it's also generally 6-8% stronger and aged for much longer (in general.)

Due to the longer ageing it picks up earth tones from the oak barrels. It's also common for Armagnac to be comprised from one distillation where Cognac is almost always blended and has no specific age recognition beyond the VS, VSOP, XO Designation.

[ValeTudoGuy]

Yeah, its distilled and put into casks in 75 making it distilled in the year of my birth. It's had 18 in wood and the rest in the bottle. If you look around you'll find old bottles of all sorts that sell for silly money because they are old even though they are aged in wood for 10, 20 or whatever in wood. The stuff in the bottles may not improve but having something made in your year of birth is the thing. However as lots of XO cognac is around 40 year aged you may get lucky and find a 75 distilling if you're clever at locating such things. If anyone can find me a 40 year old brandy that's just bottled I'd be very interested.

While many XO's will indeed contain spirit that's up to 40 years aged, that spirit will be heavily blended with spirits as low as 6 years aged. The only thing to go by with Cognac is the date it was bottled because the rest is purposely misleading,

[ValeTudoGuy]

Tommy... you'd want a sweet one.
But not citrusy - so not Dalmore or Cragganmore.
Sweet but not burnt - so not Auchentoshan or Springbank.

Perhaps another lowland like Hazelburn. Or perhaps just the standard Glenfiddie?

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Did I miss something? Why would he want these things?

[ValeTudoGuy]

Tbh if I'm gonna buy a spirit from 40 years ago I'd get a cognac as that's what I drink anyway. Also there are some I'd like to try anyway. I am keen to try whisky a more but this isn't a good time to start blind.

Though if you buy a 40 year aged Armagnac it's guaranteed to be exactly that in the same way a Single malt uses a true age statement.

[tommy]

40th Drink

While many XO's will indeed contain spirit that's up to 40 years aged, that spirit will be heavily blended with spirits as low as 6 years aged. The only thing to go by with Cognac is the date it was bottled because the rest is purposely misleading,

I noticed that with even the very best cognac Marc. With Armagnac I could get a 40 YO spirit then. A good example is Remy XO Excellence which is blended from eau de vit aged up to 39 years.
Great info from you Marc, you never fail to help if its booze!

[Sean]

They are both brandy so there are similarities... Armagnac is distilled only once so retains more of the original fruits influence, it's also generally 6-8% stronger and aged for much longer (in general.)

Due to the longer ageing it picks up earth tones from the oak barrels. It's also common for Armagnac to be comprised from one distillation where Cognac is almost always blended and has no specific age recognition beyond the VS, VSOP, XO Designation.

Cheers marc think might start trying some armagnac sounds like could have more things going on


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[ValeTudoGuy]

Armagnac can indeed be great and is almost always higher quality spirit at a lower price.... Don't think I'm saying quality Cognac isn't good though because it really really can be great, the blenders are masters of making beautiful spirit. But because Cognac is 'popular' those high quality spirits usually command a bigger price.

If you want to explore Armagnac then look for a Clos Martin tasting set. Like this vvv

http://www.gauntleys.com/product4789-clos-martin-20cl-tasting-set

[ValeTudoGuy]

With Armagnac I could get a 40 YO spirit then.

Absolutely! And very easily for good money... Armagnac ages very well so examples accountng for every decade from the mid 1890's are still readily available. At shockingly low prices when you consider aged whisky prices.

Wanna drink something from 1890? Easy and for ?1200

http://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/P-197.aspx

How about something BOTTLED in the 50's? Easy ?100

http://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/P-17537.aspx

if you want to go back to 1875 then the price will start shooting up though. ?2500

http://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/P-19291.aspx

But you would be celebrating your birthday +100

Armagnac is a crazy world of old alcohol!

[groundhog]

My first Armagnac....

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[tommy]

Nice. Thanks Marc, your next challenge is to find the best birthday Armagnac for reasonable money.

[groundhog]

http://www.armagnac.com/en/armagnac.php?vintage=1975

There are a few.....

[RobustoClubHavana]

Snap it's a good starter

But this is different gravy



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