Butters!

[tommy]

Have to be proud of the way this thread on a paddle shaped cigar has run. Demonic penis squirts should have killed the thing but some seriousness returned.
Construction is something Cuba could definitely spend some effort on but blend on Cubans are glorious when on point. I had an Undercrown Dogma the other day at work and it help together perfectly even after the unloving treatment I showed it. There's a lot to be said for that. I guess what I'm saying is that there's good in both.

[tippexx]

I think it's also true to say that when a Cuban 'fails' there's cause to moan because even the cheapest are expensive.

The huge majority of NC are not as expensive and failures aren't reported because they don't hurt.

[Wigan]

I think it's also true to say that when a Cuban 'fails' there's cause to moan because even the cheapest are expensive.

The huge majority of NC are not as expensive and failures aren't reported because they don't hurt.

I don't buy that NC are cheaper. Plenty of decentcubans that are cheaper than NC. In fact don't find the NC to be cheap at all

[PeeJay]

I don't buy that NC are cheaper. Plenty of decentcubans that are cheaper than NC. In fact don't find the NC to be cheap at all

That's because we have to buy them in the UK. I would imagine tippexx is looking at the wider picture where NCs are readily and cheaply available

[tippexx]

That's because we have to buy them in the UK. I would imagine tippexx is looking at the wider picture where NCs are readily and cheaply available

Absolutely .... where you can just walk into a drug store or Walmart and buy some as easily as we might buy HAMLET.

In 2001 America alone smoked it's way through 278.5 Million 'recorded' (so no Cuban) cigars, I really doubt they were all really high end or high quality.

[Wigan]

Ah I see

[tippexx]

Ah I see

To give you an idea. These aren't the very cheapest, but are what someone considers to be the 'best' of the cheapest.

$3 = app. ?2.

http://cigars.about.com/od/typesofcigar1/tp/cheapcigars.htm

[Wigan]

That's purchased in America. There are plenty of decent Cubans for that price if purchased in Cuba or price equivalent

[tippexx]

If you can get me a hand rolled Lonsdales for under a quid in Cuba Wigan then I'll happily buy it of you .... and, if they're Monsdales you could probably sell hundreds on here!

[Wigan]

I didn't say they were the best Cubans for 2 quid. Just decent ones

[Wigan]

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