Sumatra Cigars

[Dherm]

Hi guys. Has anyone bought or smoked Sumatra cigars? Ive been offered a box and thought" hold on a minute why dont I ask the good folk on the forum for some advice before parting with any of my well earned cigar tokens"

[pedro]

Yes I have smoked cigars with sumatra tobacco in them but my thoughts on them will bare no relevance to the ones you are on about as you have not said what they are.

[Dherm]

I just phone my brother in-law and was told they are "Hoyo de monterray dark Sumatra Ebano cigars" He has a box of 25 he won as part of a golf win, but alas he's not a smoker.

[RogMcDodge]

NC Hoyo that I have had have always been good although I haven't had this particular one.

Review here: http://cigarfan.net/2007/03/02/hoyo-...sumatra-ebano/

[Dherm]

Is it worth a punt at ?30 the box? Sorry I have to ask as I don't have a clue and rely a lot on you guys.

[RogMcDodge]

I think for ?30 it is definitely worth a punt!!

Boxes in the US are approx ?60

[Dherm]

Thanks Rogmcdodge. It makes for an informed purchase. My brother in-law is a useless golfer at best, so I questioned the prize when he got it. It was part of a hamper he won in a tournament today. Ill report on the cigars when I pick them up and smoke one

[smokem]

Those are a very nice cigar. Mild in body, with a full flavor and a bit of spice at the start. Blends back to a nice rich finish. Some I've had did have a bit of a burn issue, but nothing to toss them over.

[Smallclub]

"Hoyo de monterray dark Sumatra Ebano cigars"

"Dark Sumatra" is just an appellation here. I don't think there is one gram of sumatran tobacco in these cigars.

Tobacco from Sumatra (and Java, and Indonesia in general) is mainly used for "dry" machine cigars that are very commun in Belgium and the Netherlands.

[smokem]

The wrapper on this cigar is an Ecuador grown Sumatra.

[Smallclub]

The wrapper on this cigar is an Ecuador grown Sumatra.

Which means the seed is a variety native to Sumatra, that's all.

From the cigarfan.net web site: The Dark Sumatra line was introduced in 2002 using an “unusually dark” Ecuadoran wrapper leaf that Estelo Padron found in one of his warehouses. It is certainly the darkest Ecuadoran wrapper I’ve come across .

[smokem]

And this from Cigar dot com:
"The Dark Sumatra is one of the fullest flavored Hoyo de Monterrey blends, featuring an extra fermented dark wrapper.
It takes a great cigar master to spot the potential of a new tobacco--and an even greater one to turn it into an outstanding cigar. So it was with Estelo Padr?n when he discovered an unusually dark Ecuadorian Sumatra wrapper curing in his barn. One look at its deep color inspired him to create this singularly rich, robust Hoyo de Monterrey cigar that is as deeply satisfying as it is authentically Honduran.
A line extension from Hoyo de Monterrey, this extra-rich cigar called "Dark Sumatra", is named after its wrapper tobaccos, which are hand-selected from the very darkest and richest Ecuadorian sun-grown, Sumatra seed leaves. These choice, extra-dark Sumatra leaves are then aged in "tercios", wood-textured bales made of thick, dried palm leaves. This special selection and aging process guarantees that the Dark Sumatra is one of the best-tasting cigars ever to come out of Honduras. Dark Sumatra also has a rich textured Connecticut Broadleaf binder and a special robust blend of premium Honduran and Dominican filler tobaccos that all contribute to the extraordinary taste".

So wouldn't a Sumatran seed grown in Ecuador still be Sumatran tobacco? I'm just asking...

[Smallclub]

So wouldn't a Sumatran seed grown in Ecuador still be Sumatran tobacco? I'm just asking...

No. Many NC cigar makers use "cuban seeds" grown in Honduras or Nicaragua, they don't claim it's cuban tobacco.

[smokem]

Cloud part of that be because if they did they wouldn't be able to sell any of it here in the states?

[bfg84]

Cloud part of that be because if they did they wouldn't be able to sell any of it here in the states?

No it doesn’t work like that, Soil and climate play such a huge part in tobacco crops that it has to be grown in the country........... I think