Rocky Patel the edge torpedo maduro

[rascal]

The darker the wrappers, the more oils they normally have and therefore more pliable.
CHEMISTRY!!

Rubbish

[butternutsquashpie]

Rubbish

General rule of thumb.

Go ahead, Rascal... Prove me wrong.

[PeeJay]

Rubbish

Its not enough just to rubbish him, explain why for the rest of us

[rascal]

General rule of thumb.

Go ahead, Rascal... Prove me wrong.

What that a darker wrapper means there more oil. If you have a dried out dark dog turd does that have more oil than in a fresh shiny lighter one? Oil you can see it on the wrapper and colour of the wrapper has nothing to do with the oil content.

[rascal]

Its not enough just to rubbish him, explain why for the rest of us

No it is. if you can't understand how to tell if a cigar has a oily sheen regardless of the wrapper colour that does not mean I have to explain it to you

[PeeJay]

Candela
Candela wrappers, sometimes called Double Claro, are somewhat uncommon; they have a recognizable green tint to them, and have a very fresh, leafy aroma. The green color is achieved by picking the tobacco leaves before the plant has fully matured and drying the leaves quickly. This ensures that the chlorophyll content of the leaves is retained, thereby giving the wrapper its distinguishing color. Tasting notes associated with Candela wrappers typically include grass, cedar, and pepper with a little bit of sweetness. Depending on what type of tobacco leaf is used, they can break out of the mild zone, but typically remain pretty smooth and manageable.


Maduro

Maduro means “mature” or “ripe” in Spanish, and that’s exactly what these dark brown leaves are. The process of making a true Maduro wrapper involves a great deal of time. After the leaves are picked, they’re stored in a curing barn for up to 45 days, until their color turns from green to a rich brown. They are then aged for years to achieve an even darker color. The aging process also brings out the natural sugars in the tobacco leaves, giving darker cigars their distinct caramel sweetness. The leaves used for Maduro wrappers must be significantly thicker than the others, as they undergo a lengthy fermentation process that could make thinner leaves simply disintegrate.
Unfortunately, some companies will take shortcuts with the aging process like heating the leaves or sometimes even dying them. Luckily, however, the vast majority of manufacturers stick to tradition and age their Maduro leaves the honest, old fashioned way. Maduro wrappers can boast a myriad of tasting notes, including dark chocolate, coffee, brown sugar, caramel, molasses, black pepper, dried fruit, black cherry, and sometimes even a boozy taste, depending on how they are aged. The common sweetness in Maduro-wrapped cigars often earns them the designation of nighttime or “dessert” smokes.

[PeeJay]

No it is. if you can't understand how to tell if a cigar has a oily sheen regardless of the wrapper colour that does not mean I have to explain it to you

Well actually it should. This open forum attracts a lot of new smokers looking to expand their knowledge as well as have fun and you just saying 'rubbish' in response to something you disagree with benefits no one.

[rascal]

Well actually it should. This open forum attracts a lot of new smokers looking to expand their knowledge as well as have fun and you just saying 'rubbish' in response to something you disagree with benefits no one.

No it does. Cause you choose not to at least say rubbish when utter rubbish is spoken thats why the new smokers end up smearing Vaseline on there humis.

[PeeJay]

No it does. Cause you choose not to at least say rubbish when utter rubbish is spoken thats why the new smokers end up smearing Vaseline on there humis.

Are you pissed or just bad at grammar?

[rascal]

Are you pissed or just bad at grammar?

Neither, but cant be aresd putting in poper english as you dont seem to comprehend that so thought I would try another tact

[rascal]

Just for you [MENTION=13379018]butternutsquashpie[/MENTION]

The reason your statement is rubbish is that it might be true that you are more likely to see more dark cigars with a sheen oil. It does not mean the darker the cigar the more oil. Even as a rule of thumb. Wrapper Shade and the amount of oil present are different and not related to each other in either way, plenty of dark wrappers without sheen.

[butternutsquashpie]

The reason your statement is rubbish is that it might be true that you are more likely to see more dark cigars with a sheen oil. It does not mean the darker the cigar the more oil.

Even as a rule of thumb. Wrapper Shade and the amount of oil present are different and not related to each other in either way, plenty of dark wrappers without sheen.

That, I can yield to.
Perhaps a causation cannot be made. But surely a correlation - i sure as hell see a correlation in recent boxes of both CCs and NCs.
I just remembered the fermentation process for a Maduro cigar so I guess it just doestn' cause it that way. But I've never seen a claro (or lighter) cigar with an oily sheen...

Also, just remembered the old LEs from 2000-2003 which were all dark but dry as all hell.

[rascal]

That, I can yield to.
Perhaps a causation cannot be made. But surely a correlation - i sure as hell see a correlation in recent boxes of both CCs and NCs.
I just remembered the fermentation process for a Maduro cigar so I guess it just doestn' cause it that way. But I've never seen a claro (or lighter) cigar with an oily sheen...

Also, just remembered the old LEs from 2000-2003 which were all dark but dry as all hell.

Too much PSP stock? I have a couple of boxes of claro QDO coronas that are slippier than your crack whores when you brew a fresh batch. All you see is whats chosen not all the dark boxes that are discarded with no sheen.

[butternutsquashpie]

Too much PSP stock?

Now THAT'S interesting. Perhaps I've just been a bit more conditioned and confirmationally biased towards thinking darker = more oil and somewhat better (to a point).
I, personally, don't subscribe to the PSP or HQ thing. I'm more of a box code chaser, myself. It makes cigars a bit more cheaper...

[Wigan]

I actually thought he had miss-typed PCP........