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  • The rate of unemployement

    Sitting with my family I realized how lucky I am to have them and a new job that I truly enjoy. Then on the other brain cell I think how about those Brothers of this forum who don't have a job to go to everyday. And what it must do to their families and them. You know sometimes we forget to thank our creator for the truly small things in life.
    So with this said how many B/SOTL are still out of work ?

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    I work for myself and believe me I feel blessed everytime a job comes in the door. There are so many doing it so hard around the world and even though we are not exactly on easy street I thank my lucky stars that we survive ok. To those that are unemployed I wish the best in these hard times. May life give you what you need if not what you want.
    What would I know? I'm just a backwoods roo packin crim from New Holland! LOL. (Thankyou El Cat)

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    • #3
      Like Warren I have my own business , its hard at the moment but I know many people are in a far worse place. I have a great wife, 2 great kids and a family I can turn too if I need help, of which I am very thankfull.

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      • #4
        Not employed (too busy reading books about such varied subjects as: ethnic conflict and international organization... ). But am in the process of setting up a wee little business.

        Do think myself very lucky to have a great family who are willing (and able) to support me on the occasions that I need it.

        Does cut down the cigar buying options a little though.
        My cigar review blog: The Cigar Monologues (Twitter / Facebook)
        My Company:
        Siparium Sporting

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        • #5
          I work for the Government, says it all really, unemployment around these parts is high, crime is on the increase (although they would like us to think otherwise) im working a double case load and there are threats of yet more cuts to come. Once i thought i was in a prety secure occupation but even thats being undermined by the governments of the past as well as the present. Next week there is a government review on how they can effectively reduce the Criminal Justice System even more, including the reduction of Police, Prison and Probation. It will take about 6 weeks after that for the feedback to work its way down the command chain to the little guys like us.

          Im thankful for my job, I have always been of the view that where there is always crime there is always a need for our three services... Hmmmm thats changing as are the thoughts. We shall just have to sit and wait it out.

          Our government cant seem to put 2 and 2 together, with people out of work, desperation to out food on the table hits some people (not all) and crime increases, whether thats shop theft of more serious offences like burglary both non and dwelling. Christmas is around the corner, im always busier at christmas what with burglary and robbery going through the system. Still i suppose if i were in government the country would be no better off as each persons ideas and ideals, are shot down by anothers..

          Oh apart from tax free cigars!! id make that law

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          • #6
            Yep im a full time student and working as many hours as possible in a taxi office taking calls from drunken tits at 4am, great fun lol.

            A lot of folk out there, ages with me, give or take 2 years each way also work. However, when they finish their weeks work, they give mum or dad 20 quid and thats that. Not bad for some eh haha. Unappreciative sods ! :O

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            • #7
              I work in a sector which will apparently escape UK government cuts. However, times are very lean. What's more, we were due to have a building programme that would have increased our inside space by 25% - very needed, indeed - but that expenditure has been stopped so everything is incomplete, make-do and crowded. All this has a detrimental effect in education and it manifests itself by controlling worsening poor behaviour. It makes the job far more difficult and things will get worse.

              I get on with my job professionally but most colleagues are worn out and stressed, and I am like that too on a number of days in any week.

              My son - a recent First Class Honours graduate - has had to take low-pay part-time job after part-time job and it means that he has to move from flat to flat in London. When there isn't enough work, he has to give up and bases himself back at home taking the coach or train in and out of London 70 miles from here because he can only survive if we bail him out and support him. This happens regularly.

              It's pretty grim for young people in the UK, I think, and was so even before the election of this cost-cutting government. We'll have more austere bad news this week when further cuts are announced across the Public Sector.

              I veer between enthusiasm and the suppressed despair in my job BUT I am thankful that I consider myself to have a good income due to long service which - so far - seems protected. For me, retirement is beginning to peek over the horizon.

              My heart goes out to anyone like my son and to anyone in worse circumstances with family responsibilities trying to keep a roof over their heads. It's bloody hard for loads of people who are seeking work at present in the UK.

              If my younger 18 year old son decides to drop the idea of University and finds what seems to be a secure job, I reckon in this climate he might be doing the exactly the right thing to abandon his HE plans. Being in education and believing in it completely, I never thought I'd hear myself say that.

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              • #8
                Well, I am a full time student. Of course unemployed! But I don't complain. It's hard sometimes (and you already know that Mike) but that's what I have chosen to do and I stick with it!

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                • #9
                  How do students afford good cigars? Not a joke question.

                  I usually buy occasional boxes if I save money from gigs I play. Not from my main income which is completely allocated.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Robusto View Post
                    How do students afford good cigars? Not a joke question.

                    I usually buy occasional boxes if I save money from gigs I play. Not from my main income which is completely allocated.
                    Simple! We don't smoke good cigars!!!!
                    (that's why Steve makes fun of me all the time for ordering "cheap cigars")

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                    • #11
                      I've been made redundant five times. Three times in the last seven years.
                      I've always managed to go straight to another job, but not this time.
                      Engineering and steel is nearly gone around here.
                      I've got an absolutely amazing wife who can do magic with the little brass we have. Two kids who know not to ask for things (bless'em).
                      A couple of weeks ago the car broke down, ?140. A couple of days after that the boiler went, ?1550.. My wondrous lady had kept some emergency money squirreled away that I knew nothing about, so, what I thought was a disaster was sorted. We really are on the edge now tjough!
                      I've also got two mortgages ( I know, this is sounding like a C&W song. All I need is a my dog to die if I had one.) but at least one has only got two years to go.



                      Just read this back and it sounds terrible but I've got good family, good friends, a few cigars and I can occasionally go out for a pint. I've also got my bike which will only be dragged from my cold, dead hand!
                      Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.

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                      • #12
                        Cheap smokes are cheap smoke Mr Sags... lmao.. dont worry, for xmas i will treat you to a packet of hamlets or king edward coronets... lmao..

                        But when youve finished you PhD and got a good 'government' job you can buy me some behikes...

                        Sorry for hijacking the thread G-man

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                        • #13
                          Robusto,

                          I'm 18 yrs old and been working since i was about 16, like most people nowadays. However, since i started working ive been helping my mum out with all the utilities, food etc and ive never had a problem with that, thats just the way the ball bounces, albeit, a medicine ball but bouncing nonetheless lol.

                          Me and my gf stayed in Aberdeen last year for about 8 months but with Aberdeen being so expensive, we had to flit home to my mothers down here at Loch Lommond, hoping to get a flat in Elgin at the end of the year.

                          Education and the Defence (7%, thats a number that is going to leave us looking like tits in the next 4 years.) sector is going to be hit the hardest and personally, I seen this coming months ago, round about May, JUNE !!

                          For the people who complain about the cuts, and voted torrie, blame yourselves, and for those who never voted torrie, blame those who did !

                          As for the ''How do students afford good cigars?'' question, I personally put away a couple of pounds a day from my change and if its surmountable at the end of the weeks, month, and not needed, I treat myself to a few sticks

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                          • #14
                            Not wishing to stray into politics but if " we " hadn't spent it we wouldn't need to find the cash to pay it back . I've been fortunate in the construction industry in that I have never been out of work in the 28 years I have been working. I seem to have always been in a longish project at the right time. It amazes me in the hv power sector I'm in at the moment how greed is so prevalent in wage demands from agency workers. They can't see what's happening everywhere else. Good luck to anyone in difficulties.

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                            • #15
                              But looking at short term spending, were going to be screwed !
                              For example, look at BAE Systems stock, near enough plummeted in the last few days because of this 7% cut.

                              BAE systems are just round the corner from me on the Clyde, thats why ive raised them as an example.

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