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  • #16
    Originally posted by Pandyboy View Post
    Magical mystery tour, hey jude to name but a few that I love.
    Controversial one here, but I think Hey Jude is an absolutely dire song whose one and only claim to fame, its incredibly long fade out, only adds to the boredom IMO.
    Sorry, but as someone with very wide and varied musical tastes, that song does nothing for me at all.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Lionhound View Post
      Controversial one here, but I think Hey Jude is an absolutely dire song whose one and only claim to fame, its incredibly long fade out, only adds to the boredom IMO.
      Sorry, but as someone with very wide and varied musical tastes, that song does nothing for me at all.
      Just reminds me of some good times, I do agree that it is a bit boring. However when you have consumed lots of beer and are with your mates it is amazing. Lots of songs for me just bring back good memories.

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      • #18
        Oh definatley the beatles for me..

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Lionhound View Post
          Stones for me definitely.

          Beatles certainly wrote some great songs, can't deny that, but they also wrote a lot of stuff that to me was commercial crap playing to their image. Their better stuff was more the stuff that didn't necessarily fit their image.

          Stones were more raunchy and cutting edge and pushed the boundaries more in my opinion. They upset people with the raw nature of there music and lyrics but stuck to it and proved that there was a big audience out there looking for something different, more explicit and exciting.

          Like I say, the beatles did have some great songs but I think that often they wrote stuff that would suit their fans, whereas the Stones seemed to write what they felt and what they wanted to play, take it or leave it.
          Could be this was record label decisions as Beatles had some great stuff that was never released as singles while Stones management maybe gave them a free-er rein.

          Was always the cleancut Beatles or the rebellious Stones and for me the Rebels won.
          Gotta respectfully disagree and argue that the reverse is true. The Stones are a great band, but their music is entirely derivative of R & B, Blues, and Rock in general (later, sadly, they took up disco in various ways). Of course, this is not to say that they didn't have their sound or massive influence, but it was not ground breaking sonically. I'd say that they rather pushed things to extremes.

          The Beatles, on the other hand, revolutionized music in a number of ways. Sgt. Pepper is obviously a case in point (and a case which the Stones somewhat lamely copied on Satanic Request), but one just has to listen to Revolver, Rubber Soul, and other greats from Help on to see that music was changed forever, including its possibilities. And I doubt that the Beatles were listening to the studio heads much, particularly after they gave up a lucrative touring career and began spending months and tons of dollars in the studio.

          I think the Beatles led and the Stones followed, and both to great effect.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Soulmanure View Post
            Gotta respectfully disagree and argue that the reverse is true. The Stones are a great band, but their music is entirely derivative of R & B, Blues, and Rock in general (later, sadly, they took up disco in various ways). Of course, this is not to say that they didn't have their sound or massive influence, but it was not ground breaking sonically. I'd say that they rather pushed things to extremes.

            The Beatles, on the other hand, revolutionized music in a number of ways. Sgt. Pepper is obviously a case in point (and a case which the Stones somewhat lamely copied on Satanic Request), but one just has to listen to Revolver, Rubber Soul, and other greats from Help on to see that music was changed forever, including its possibilities. And I doubt that the Beatles were listening to the studio heads much, particularly after they gave up a lucrative touring career and began spending months and tons of dollars in the studio.

            I think the Beatles led and the Stones followed, and both to great effect.
            Yeah, understand what you're saying and agree to an extent. Yes, Sgt Pepper, Revolver etc were different but would have to say that the Beatles too had a lot of rock influence too ie blackbird, as would be expected. Music usually is a progression of what has gone before and often its the stretching of these boundaries which sets a band apart from the rest.
            Sgt Pepper, I agree was a departure and brought controversy with it, and yes probably allowed thinly disguised references to various aspects of life to become a norm. It also some of their stuff brought the aspect of complete change of tone, rhythm etc intoo one song (not managing this part well, havve to just hope you understand what I'm getting at.)
            The Stones, as you said also pushed their boundaries and as a result provided progress for old fashioned rock, blues etc. This may not have been quite as ground breaking but was an easier step for many and took rock etc a step forwards into the next decade.
            I agree that both had their parts to play and both did so well and sucessfully. For many it was just a simple choice of one over the other based on image rather than music.
            Would have been interested to have seen what would have happened had they not split up and the untimely deaths of Lennon & Harrison.
            Paul McCartney & Wings brought out the excellent Band on the Run, but then went downhill fast with such crap as the Frog Chorus, Mull of Kintyre, Ebony & Ivory and another recent jingly piece of commercial mince. Certainly seems to me to finger Lennon as the genius.
            However, stand by my decision on personal preference while still acknowledging the undoubted genius of a fair number of the Beatles offerings. Stage presence Paul McCartney v Mick Jagger no contest, even as a wrinkly old timer Mick is a showman of the first order.

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            • #21
              Let me take you down.....

              Ahem...for those of us who actually experienced the 60's, the Beatles led the way for the entire counter-culture generation....and the rollin' bones taught us that is was okay to spend the night together with a little brown sugar.



              Hey el Perro! IMAGINE what the fab four would have done if that hadn't disbanded.


              Thank you, Yoko Oh No.
              sigpicVaya con Dios, Amigos! - don TJ and the Coros

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              • #22
                yoko ono or marianne faithful?

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                • #23
                  I Think Not!

                  Originally posted by Lascaux View Post
                  yoko ono or marianne faithful?

                  Hmmmm, something to think about, I guess....something to think about, indeed!





                  Marianne Unfaithful??? Give me a break, el Perro.
                  sigpicVaya con Dios, Amigos! - don TJ and the Coros

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Lascaux View Post
                    yoko ono or marianne faithful?
                    Hey Lascaux, I pm'd you but can't tell if it went through. Did ya get it?

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                    • #25
                      The Beatles were the first band i can remember, my parents bought there records and the hardware to listen to them, just because at the age of 4 i was crazy about there catchy music.

                      Nowadays i prefer the Stones and i like the "Sympathy For The Devil" album very, very much. I don?t like what they are doing now.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Lascaux View Post
                        yoko ono or marianne faithful?
                        No brainer. "Ruby Tuesday", "The Ballad of Lucy Jordan", the popularity of Mars bars.................Yoko who???

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                        • #27
                          Beatles or Stones?
                          That's what was asked about every new 70s Elton John album.

                          I love them both but prefer the Stones for Ian Stewarts slutty piano riffs. If I was forced to be a guitarist Id love to riff like Keef.

                          They are still great live.

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                          • #28
                            Personally, I think they're both brilliant! I couldn't make a choice, although i have to say that my favourite album ever is side two of Abbey Road!
                            No man has the right to fix the boundary of a nation.
                            No man has the right to say to his country, "Thus far shalt thou go and no further."

                            CS Parnell



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                            • #29
                              Sgt. Pepper (album, not just song)... MUSAK!!!

                              Don't get me wrong: Love the Stones. Will undoubtedly go down in history for longevity records and band Most Likely To Make You Wanna Get Up 'N' Boogie.

                              But the frickin' Mop Tops not only changed music as we knew it, they had a profound effect on the world as well.

                              MUSAK! Indeed, harumppphhhhh!!

                              Originally posted by nicwing View Post
                              Like the Beatles, don't get me wrong but it's like Muzac.
                              rokkitsci

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                              • #30
                                If you remember the 60's...

                                Originally posted by rokkitsci View Post
                                Sgt. Pepper (album, not just song)... MUSAK!!! ... MUSAK! Indeed, harumppphhhhh!!

                                Awww, don't be too hard on the lad, senor rockethombre.

                                ...el nino's still a bit wet behind the ears !


                                sigpicVaya con Dios, Amigos! - don TJ and the Coros

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