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  • #16
    I totally agree with the Guantanamera's.

    My mum's partner is a casual smoker (smokes VERY rarely). He went to Cuba a few years ago and brought back a few of these awful things. When he found that i smoked cigars, he gave me one. I'd already smoked one or two of this brand before. If i was a rude person, i would have said just how low they are in world cigar quality, but held my tongue and made it the very next cigar i planned to smoke. Still wasn't quick enough though, i had to re-season my humidor due to the nahahasty smell it left in there.....

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    • #17
      A Guantanamera was the first Cuban I had (about 4 months ago) and I enjoyed it. But I'm sure if I had another one now I wouldn't be so impressed
      A cigar is not measured by its cost - It is measured by how much it burns your fingers

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      • #18
        First off, Luckyseven....What a revival! Over 3 years! Now that is some serious back reading! Well done to you!

        I had practically forgot that Guantanamera's even existed. Although I agree with all the views expressed here, I am however, in debt to the Guantanamera brand.

        Back about 8 years or so ago, my parents had gone away for a few weeks and I had the house to myself. Now I wasnt one for throwing parties, however, me and a couple of friends had just started playing poker. After watching one two many films, we decided to have a poker night. What did we need for a poker night? Well cards, chips, beer and cigars!! We had all but the cigars. So we went to a little tobacco shop and asked about some cigars, and the chap pulled out a box of 5 of these. We snapped them up. I remember haha, we lit them on the oven hob, because we didnt have a ligher, and we smoked those things like we owned the world! The next morning, I was coughing my lungs up, and my whole mouth tasted horrid. I have never had another one since.

        Now although it took me a while after this to start on the right track with cigars, there was something that caused me to take an interest more in cigars from this point, and thats when I started reading, and finally smoking some of the brands we all enjoy today. So yes, a terrible cigar...without it, I may possible not be here today talking to all you fine gents.

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        • #19
          Of the bad ones I have smoked over the years, Garcia y Vega and Schimmelpenninck come to mind. The Garcia y Vegas from my teen years and the Schimmelpenninck's later in life. Awful smokes!!

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          • #20
            anyone remember Manikin cigars? once smelled never forgotten, slim panatellas, King Edwards , which left a sweet taste on your lips for ages after, White Owl, Old Port , Hamlet Panatellas,Grandee cigars , if you were in a loud pup and asked for one you could get handed a brandy, yes smoked them all
            think lucky and you'll be lucky

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            • #21
              Macanudo, really poor, so bland and dull, I bought a box in NY on the back of a CA recommendation, smoked like 2 or 3 then spent the next year or two trying to practically give them away.
              "The best cigar you'll ever smoke is the one you're smoking at the minute" - Zino Davidoff

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              • #22
                Ohh where to being as its been months since i posted on here ill start at the beginning (ps my spelling and grammar is appalling thanks for noticing)

                Lets see villiger tubos is where i began with cigars they are pretty bad but still i go back to them every few months just for the memory

                Next would be the good old guantanamo crystals as discribed in the first post but ive always found them to be the bottom of the bottom barrel with no redeeming quality the worst part is i keep getting gifted them by my friends who goto cuba even after i ask for just a single bolivar or partagas ill even settle for a box of glass top cohibas but no.

                H.Upmann Mag 50s are also pretty bad imo out of a good 15 of a 25 box ive never had a good flavourful one the construction is great the draw and aroma is great but theres no taste.

                Cohiba lanceros seem to have consistent consistency issues unless your lucky enough to know a non smoking diplomat that will give you his box of "special ones" they get from time to time.

                Punch margaritas looked good but all 10 ive had so far have had a really REALLY tight draw which i a damn shame.

                And they are the ones i remember

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                • #23
                  Yes, I agree. Punch. Had a box of half coronas. Big name but very mixed box of sticks. Sometimes you get a beauty, or sometimes you get a section in the cigar where it is just perfect and that in itself makes it worth it. But other times you are sucking your mouth out and wrecking your palette on something that is too tight, or watching with amazement as the thing starts to fall apart halfway through like it has just exploded inside. Best thing to do with a tight cigar is just abandon it and move on to the next cigar.
                  As for the Punch margaritas, yes I agree. They started off with a hit, but been in the humidor for a year now and are turning hard to the touch, and tasting floral.

                  As for H Upmann some of those major's can a mixed bag. I Had one last month that was too tight. When I was next at the cigar shop, I mentioned it. The guy in the shop that sold them to me, says: "What, you did not like the H Upmann Major cigar? hey, these are the best cigars in the world", He makes me feel like it is me that caused the thing to be too tight, or to explode, or like I am a slob who does not understand. Makes me feel like it is me who is wrong. Am i a professional complainer or something?
                  The guy in shop says: These are the best cigars in the world, look it says "hand Made" Look it says on the box, he says and looks at me like I need to get my head examined.

                  Some of these shop sellers, they don’t even smoke cigars. I don’t cause them to explode, I just suck on the things.

                  Last edited by Luckyseven; 01-01-2012, 09:45 PM.

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                  • #24
                    I totally agree, Hamlets are woeful and then some. I would also liken smoking Wintermans to chewing peppercorns. Another cigar that in truth is utter cardboard but hold sentimental value of rebellious youth and acting like Al Capone is the Agio Half Corona, always will return to them for the nostalgia
                    Smoke your pipe and be silent; there's only wind and smoke in the world. ~Irish Proverb

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                    • #25
                      Another one for me to add is the Saint Luis Rey Regios. What a pile! One dimensional and crap draw, so bad I looked like a smoking fish! I know I mentioned this cigar being not that great in a previous thread, but it needed to be mentioned again in this! Stick to the SLR churchill I say!

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                      • #26
                        I'm surprised on the SLR Regios, one of my favourite cheaper smokes, I find them similar in strength to a Party SDN4.
                        I have 14 left from a box of 25 sat in the wine cooler, this may prompt me for a revisit!

                        Duff smoke recently was a Rafael Gonzales Corona Extra, plain, one dimensional and just dull.
                        Exploring the world - one smoke at a time.

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                        • #27
                          Punch Petite Punch - Got myself another one from a different box and yet again its plugged to all hell its strange these used to be one of my go to sticks but i wont buy them after the last 6 in a row have been plugged

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Reaver2145 View Post
                            Punch Petite Punch - Got myself another one from a different box and yet again its plugged to all hell its strange these used to be one of my go to sticks but i wont buy them after the last 6 in a row have been plugged
                            WOW different box and still the same issues. That is a bit of a kick in the tits...

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by SmokeyDave
                              I'm surprised on the SLR Regios, one of my favourite cheaper smokes, I find them similar in strength to a Party SDN4.
                              I may have just had a bad apple, who knows! I might give another a try if I am brave enough!

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                              • #30
                                Over the past 6 years I have evolved toward smoking almost all Cuban cigars. But lots of my friends insist I'm just biased. Every once in a while I try a non Cuban, and almost all the time I'm disappointed. With the exception of some of the Padrons, Fuentes, Tatuaje, I rarely find anything worth smoking.

                                My last BAD cigar was a Diamond Crown Julius Caeser (spelled that way because named after a member of the maker's family). The pyramid version was just rated as #25 by Cigar Aficionado. I bought a robusto, beautiful band, but horrible smoke. Tasted of tin and ash, no redeeming flavors.

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