Musical room 101

[nicwing]

Discussions on another thread about the X-Fuctor and Rage against the machine being a Simon Cowell product has sent me spinning into a place I don't normally go.

I can generally get along with any kind of music but in my Musical Room 101 I think I would have some really pappy Stock Aitken and Waterman song like Never going to give you up.

I heard Peter Stockaitkenman on the radio yesterday and the music world has gone mad. I am not saying that Mickey Most wasn't from the same mould in the 70's because I have seen the house he build on the profits near us and he obviously made several mints, it's just when I hear original musicians like John Martyn who fought the system and never got the recognition he deserved it makes my blood boil.

Bloody hell I am starting to post like 'busto!!

So what toon do you hate?

[Drewmidorn]

Shiny Happy People by REM and anything by the Smiths. They're lyrically retarded and then in an emperor's new clothes way people start bandying about words like "ironic" without realising that crap is just crap.

There you go... that should start a fight!

[Lascaux]

nickelback.

[Robusto]

Starsailor

[bigbarneyhotdog]

Anything that isn't Miles Davis, today

[celsis]

OK, I hate to admit it, but I kinds gave up on new music around 1985. To be sure, there are a few tracks since then that I liked, but precious few!

I still yearn for a new Loudon Wainwright III or Warren Zevon, or even a new UFO or Uriah Heep, but I think I'm just becoming a grumpy old fart!

Having said that, I went to see the Pistols on the Filty Lucre tour and loved it! Even bought the live album.

[daverave999]

I wasn't going to whinge in the RATM thread but I will do here.

Most 'music' around these days seems to be what is pushed at teenagers through powerful marketing forces. Nobody seems to get anywhere because they are good. It's all autotuned bollocks now. I most likely sound like my Dad but this isn't music for music's sake, it's disposable consumption for people too stupid to find music for themselves.

So I'm going to say any tune that used Auto-Tune.

[Drewmidorn]

I wasn't going to whinge in the RATM thread but I will do here.

Most 'music' around these days seems to be what is pushed at teenagers through powerful marketing forces. Nobody seems to get anywhere because they are good. It's all autotuned bollocks now. I most likely sound like my Dad but this isn't music for music's sake, it's disposable consumption for people too stupid to find music for themselves.

So I'm going to say any tune that used Auto-Tune.

At the risk of upsetting you Dave, you sound a little like my parents (well not my parents they, but our generation's parents), and their parents, and the people who knocked Elvis Presley and the Beatles and Glen Miller (the list is endless and includes Mozart) as "just noise".

You are right about much of the chart music, but there is some amazing music out there which is brilliantly played, written and performed by really talented young (and old) bands.... its just that you won't find it on Radio 2 (and thats not a dig at radio 2). Sigur Ros, Muse, Pendulum to The Dead Weather or Gogol Bordello and the smaller artists who are turning out great stuff... not least of which is this forums very own Lascaux.

As people get older they stop finding new things in all ways including music, art and fashion and start to settle with "I know what I like and I like what I know". I include myself in that, but I work really hard on finding new music and listening to new material because of my work.... however Francis Bacon, jeans and converse always do the trick.

With regards to Auto Tune and things like Melodyne they're used much more than you'd like to think... and on some very good singers and players (yup it works on guitar solos and the like). Our demands for music have changed and if you listen to some classic pop records including Motown and Stax (and I'm especially thinking of Michael Jackson in the his Jackson five days) there are some vocals which these days wouldn't get through the net and would be carefully and invisibly autotuned. Its also a reassuring when you hear bands like JLS singing acapella and realise that they may be pushing nasty Syco pop, but they are very talented singers.... and the little one can do a back flip. lol

I also think that most of the pop is bought by mid 20s to mid 30s.... the teenagers don't pay for it.

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[Deano]

I quite like Starsailor and very much like The Smiths, oh well!

Gotta be Red Hot Chilli Peppers for me. Can't stand them.

[celsis]

Ah Jeez, I forgot about Sigur Ros. They're amazing.....and so Einsturzende Neubauten....

[68TriShield]

Give me Rock-a- Billy or give me death.

Very little new music interests me.

[Drewmidorn]

Give me Rock-a- Billy or give me death.

Very little new music interests me.

Do you know Imelda May and Daryl Higham?

[daverave999]

At the risk of upsetting you Dave, you sound a little like my parents...

Yeah OK I was aiming mainly at the charts. JLS are still a result of The X-Factor. I get your point with the bands you named but do take hideous exception to Pendulum. You are probably also very correct that at the ripe old age of 29 I've settled into my habits already. I'm getting old and I don't like it.

At the risk of sounding sycophantic I love Lascaux's Patty stuff and your Aldous stuff.

[68TriShield]

Do you know Imelda May and Daryl Higham?

I don't but might very well be

EDIT:listening to her on youtube now. I will explore her music,she sounds really good.

[Nuno Sa]

Been listening to music a lot in the past 20 years, and always trying to find new stuff, as news bands and sounds. I don?t like to put music in categories and say i like rock or other genre of music only. I like good music. Doesn?t have to be well played if it as a good message or it?s funny.

Don?t believe that there was a better decade in music production than the other, just think that there was a decade that marked us most.