Non-UK Retailers and Tax Evasion Discussions

[peanutpete]

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Oohhhh! Look mum, a llama. Can I go behind it and...

Ermm... ahem. Yes. Well....

As we are all of age here and familiar with all the rules and regulations as pertains to and appurtenant with stoughie smocking, the obtaining of same, and the restriction as regards distribution to foreign nationals without first having fulfilled the obligation of filling the national coffers with huge amounts of coin of the realm (either real money [dollars from the US of byghodz A] or that funny munny you Brits call pounds stirling moss), thencefore shall I reproduce here for your enlightenment the dictates regarding the import of see-gars fabrica en ISOM (that would be Island South Of Miami) into the holy territory of the US of byghodz A:

"NO FUCKING WAY! CATCH YOU WITH A CUBAN AND YOU WILL BE KILLED TO DEATH!"

This is the only Cuban I smuggled into my house !
PSSSS don't let my wife know

when you finish with my girlfriend can you send her home, the kitchen needs cleaning

[Deano]

The small banner on the front of the forum has been removed.

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So did my post...
but that's ok...

[Deano]

Yes because you posted an image of the advertisement.

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ok got that!

[cj121]

In terms of importation of tobacco products from overseas and the tax/duty position: my understanding is that the only way this can discharged is by any such monies being paid by the sender (As Deano identified) and not one that can be done this end. Of course there will be stories of 'I know a chap that paid this and that' at the point of entry, but this is an exception, not the rule. HMC/UKBA are also concious of the retail element re profit that is missing from such imports too.

[matt257]

In terms of importation of tobacco products from overseas and the tax/duty position: my understanding is that the only way this can discharged is by any such monies being paid by the sender (As Deano identified) and not one that can be done this end. Of course there will be stories of 'I know a chap that paid this and that' at the point of entry, but this is an exception, not the rule. HMC/UKBA are also concious of the retail element re profit that is missing from such imports too.

I was under the impression that if cigars imported from overseas were declared as such, then customs would charge you relevant tax/duty.

I have had packages declared as cigars and have paid the relevant fees. I have no idea how they work out how much tax/duty is though

[monkey66]

some UK info

http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageTravel_InfoGuides&propertyType=document&id=HMCE_PROD_010220

Worth noting that if you bring in over your personal allowance (50 cigars) then you pay duty on the full amount, not just the difference.

[tippexx]

I have no idea how they work out how much tax/duty is though[/QUOTE]

I think it's calculated on weight. But if that's cigar weight, or cigars plus box weight, or cigars plus box plus all protective packaging I have no idea either.

[cj121]

I was under the impression that if cigars imported from overseas were declared as such, then customs would charge you relevant tax/duty.

I have had packages declared as cigars and have paid the relevant fees. I have no idea how they work out how much tax/duty is though

As I was saying Matt, this is would appear to be an exception, rather than rule. Look

Here

Here

And here

And here

[daverave999]

I think it's calculated on weight. But if that's cigar weight, or cigars plus box weight, or cigars plus box plus all protective packaging I have no idea either.

It's just on the weight of the tobacco. I did find a link to the relevant page in the Customs Officer's guidance manual that said as such. I'll see if I can find it again.

[monkey66]

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/budget2009/bn85.pdf

4. The rates of duty are:
• cigarettes: an amount equal to 24 per cent of the retail price plus ?114.31 per thousand cigarettes;
• cigars: ?173.13 per kilogram;
• hand-rolling tobacco: ?124.45 per kilogram; and
• other smoking tobacco and chewing tobacco: ?76.12 per kilogram.

doesn't sound to bad but you also have to add VAT and Excise duty.

[daverave999]

My original post on the subject is here.

[Dixie1982]

Oh how things have changed since I was last on.

For the record i haven't recieved an order and am currently enjoying my very short supply of UK bought, excise paid ceegars!

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