Non-UK Retailers and Tax Evasion Discussions

[G-man]

U think they would have learned ? How in gods name can you keep TAXING the piss out of the working man and the few pleasures he has and expext him to ignore it . Then take his hard earned moneys a give it to some free loader with 9 in his family and put 2 cars in their driveway. How long do our governments expect each and every 1 of you to sit back and do nothing.

[monkey66]

Nice to see you back on the old revolutionary road Mike

But in reality taxation on tobacco products will never be reduced, all taxation is a bitch but it will always happen, right now they are debating VAT on food here ...how far down the list of tax breaks do you think cigars are?

[LJ83]

The UK tax rules suck and are a complete disgrace.....

[TJCoro]

Oh Boo Hoo!

The UK tax rules suck and are a complete disgrace.....

Dude! Life sucks and then you die...get used to it!


(Hurumph!)


Hey el Perro! I don't think the lad can hear you no mores.

[Gman]

The tax in the UK is just stupid.... House prices are out of reach of most people, fuel prices are ridiculous. They tax us all so much that many people can’t afford to live, so the government then have to pay billions in housing benefit, council tax benefit and working tax credit so that “normal” people can survive on a basic wage.

If they dropped taxes, people would not need working tax credits and this and that… so the government would save billions in the process. People would then have more money and would intern spend it (because we can’t help it ) the government would be making less per purchase, but people would be making more purchases.


ARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Then the whole national debt thing…. I don’t get this, every country owes billions (but to who?) why don’t each and every country in the world clear all debts, then no country would owe anyone anything, start afresh?????…… why not!

[daverave999]

Gman, pop over to housepricecrash.co.uk ;-)

[james.uk]

I have ordered from abroad and the correct taxes seem to be applied on importation. Why is this a touchy subject? (I also buy most of mine from Gib and stay within my allowance as I'm there often enough to make it my main source). It is not a good source for unusual smokes though...


Watches and Cigars.

[PeeJay]

There is no problem with buying from abroad and paying all the appropriate taxes but what is not allowed is discussing and encouraging the avoidance of said taxes in the forum. Does that help?

[james.uk]

Does that mean there are suppliers who do not package as cigars or do a customs label? I can understand you would not want to post tax avoidance tactics but ratings for non UK suppliers could be useful. ( don't panic I'm not mentioning anyone!) J


Watches and Cigars.

[PeeJay]

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[cigarmo]

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lol

[butternutsquashpie]

yupp, too many variables and everyone is just playing safe than sorry. taxes are treated incredibly anally in every government. UK and Canada as well. and especially the USA. every forum dealing with taxable items such as booze, cars, and tobacco includes this for safe measure. it also prevents proctoring by HMRC for you mates so you can have a decent amount of privacy in this Connected World of ours.
shitty as it sounds, that's just the way it is nowadays.

now go on, get! run before the Monkey comes and goes bananas over the topic

[Deano]

Does that mean there are suppliers who do not package as cigars or do a customs label? I can understand you would not want to post tax avoidance tactics but ratings for non UK suppliers could be useful. ( don't panic I'm not mentioning anyone!) J

Nah I'm afraid that just lends itself to confusion regarding the discussion of said suppliers. Not only that, but we would be actively promoting these suppliers by mentioning them (even in negative reviews).

Ultimately mate, it's not something we're going to allow, in any form, sorry.

[ValeTudoGuy]

If that rule protects Deano, this forum and us. Then I'm happy it's in place.

Would it be nice to be able to discuss legitimate international retailers that do everything by the book, so I could purchase cigars unavailable in this country.... Yep.

Would it be worth the influx of dodgy posts that would require heavy filtration and moderation.... Nope.

Keep the site as it is, it has clear purpose and direction. If people want to take the risk of buying abroad they don't need to be egged on, on an open forum.

Edit: I see the man has spoken ^^^^

[mattyhall22]

Could our sponsors not get in small quantities of the unavailable American market sticks to sell as samplers?

With the reviews Peejay and others have put up for some of the NC sticks they look really good, and we are clearly missing out.

It must be worth while for Cgars to look into it?