Beatles Remasters

[Lascaux]

Ditto plus The White Album and Rubber Soul...the early stuff's a bit too pop-py for me. I think they developed (ie found drugs) at the Rubber Soul/Revolver stage then made some of the greatest songs ever after that...esp. Abbey Road

id put forward 'with the beatles' and please please me from their early stuff as well as 'live at the bbc'. though revolver and rubber soul are my all time favourites, i keep on coming back to those first two, especially with the beatles.

you really got a hold on me, it wont be long, all i've gotta do, devil in her heart, taste of honey, baby its you, misery, please please me. damn brilliant songs
and the live version of you really got a hold on me from live at the bbc, one of the best live recordings ive heard.

[Lascaux]

inadvertantly, did anyone get Love and what are peoples opinions on it? i thought it was brilliant, the within you/tomorrow never knows mash up and acoustic while my guitar gently weeps, mindblowing

[TJCoro]

TJ's Golden Rule - Read Before You Post!

inadvertantly, did anyone get Love and what are peoples opinions on it? i thought it was brilliant, the within you/tomorrow never knows mash up and acoustic while my guitar gently weeps, mindblowing

Dude! Just a suggestion, but consider reading ALL THE POSTS before write.

( Knowing you, I probably need to tell you to "click" on the "ALL THE POSTS" here or above - your choice )

I have the "Love" CD and think it's outstanding

It made lil' BJCoro and Catalina, me sister cry!

TJ

[Lascaux]

sorry sir wont happen again sir!

just to rub salt on the wounds, i was at the UK premiere of Love in abbey road studios!
ill be going now

[cbob]

No one would go to great paintings and start enhancing the colour because pigment technology has moved on.

Actually, they are doing this all the time. There are folks in museums who spend their careers "restoring" old paintings which in most cases involves scraping off decades of muck and adding new colours where old ones have faded away. The colours as they "believe" they were originally.

I remember how disappointed I was when the original MONO version of my favorite LP of the day (Booker T & The MGs Green Onions if you must know) was re-released in "Electronically Reprocessed Stereo". Part of the horror was in the frightful "stereo" image, part in the missing intro (the title cut fades in) but mainly the fear that the recording was now f*&^ed and lost forever. Years later a "remastered" CD was released and -OH JOY!- there was my beloved music in all its MONO glory but with a dynamic range impossible to achieve with "RIAA filters" and a total lack of surface noise and pops.

I have not yet heard the new Beatles remasters but hope for the best. It's a shame that most of this music will be "downloaded" and loaded on iPods with a fraction of the necessary bandwidth and yet another generation will hear their tunes through the equivalent of a cheap car radio.

[monkey66]

My name is Monkey66 not Nic ....what was that you were saying about 'read the post' TJ?

Oh senor Nic...you're such a purist. Your so-called disappointment with remasters is more likely a function of age - the inability to hear the high and low frequencies anymore.

But what the fuck to I know....I'm still listening to music on my 8-track player and a walkman when I go mobile....

Names TJ, TJCoro, and what's a "IPod?"


when all else fails, juggle your balls.

[monkey66]

Interesting point Cbob but as you say they are trying to get the pictures back to the original quality, not enhanced to a 2009 quality.

I am sure that sometimes there are gains to be had and there have been some crimes to music over the years al la your Booker T experience.

I guess for me it is a sentimental attachment to the emotions generated by the original hit of the music. For example (and to answer Panto's question) I was bought the remastered Fleetwood Mac - Rumours album a few years ago.

There is no doubt that it was a technically superior version with more definition, separation between parts, dynamic range, less noise etc (you know all those things one tries to achieve when sat behind a big Neve/SSL board). But for me I just found it a bit odd having listened to the album on vinyl, tape and first generation CD. It all just sounded a bit 'wrong'. Of course it was not 'wrong' just different to my reference memories. I gave away the new CD after a couple of listens. I suspect if it was the first time I had heard the albun i would have been blown away and that if I listened to it form many years eventually I would come to think of it is 'normal' and find the original a bit 'odd'.

So my conclusions is that of you are new to an album remasters will probably be an improvement, if you are already very familiar with an old friend be cautious.

Actually, they are doing this all the time. There are folks in museums who spend their careers "restoring" old paintings which in most cases involves scraping off decades of muck and adding new colours where old ones have faded away. The colours as they "believe" they were originally.

I remember how disappointed I was when the original MONO version of my favorite LP of the day (Booker T & The MGs Green Onions if you must know) was re-released in "Electronically Reprocessed Stereo". Part of the horror was in the frightful "stereo" image, part in the missing intro (the title cut fades in) but mainly the fear that the recording was now f*&^ed and lost forever. Years later a "remastered" CD was released and -OH JOY!- there was my beloved music in all its MONO glory but with a dynamic range impossible to achieve with "RIAA filters" and a total lack of surface noise and pops.

I have not yet heard the new Beatles remasters but hope for the best. It's a shame that most of this music will be "downloaded" and loaded on iPods with a fraction of the necessary bandwidth and yet another generation will hear their tunes through the equivalent of a cheap car radio.