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  • #46
    Does anybody knowledgeable know what the actual risk is? Looks like people in supermarkets and communities are just going bonkers...10s of thousands die of flu every year...I doubt a significant percentage of population will be seriously affected?

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    • #47
      Originally posted by cohibaIV View Post
      Found this online


      Keep Calm and Carry On? was one of three key messages created by Britain?s wartime propaganda department, the Ministry of Information, made famous as the Ministry of Truth in George Orwell?s novel, 1984.

      The now-ubiquitous ?Keep Calm and Carry On? phrase was chosen for its clear message of ?sober restraint? and was coined by the shadow Ministry of Information at some point between 27 June and 6 July 1939.

      It was one of a series of three posters that would be issued in the event of war (the others read ?Your Courage, Your Cheerfulness, Your Resolution; Will Bring Us Victory? and ?Freedom is in Peril; Defend it with all Your Might?). The ?Keep Calm? design was never officially issued and only a very small number of originals have survived to the present day.

      2.45 million posters displaying it were printed, only to be pulped and recycled in 1940 to help the British government deal with a serious paper shortage.

      It wasn?t until a copy was discovered in a bookshop in Northumberland in 2000, and reproductions of it began to be sold a year later, that its fame was established.


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      That?s what I thought never seen publicly by any number of people til the 2000?s quite an interesting random bit of history!


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      • #48
        Originally posted by ZomB View Post
        Does anybody knowledgeable know what the actual risk is? Looks like people in supermarkets and communities are just going bonkers...10s of thousands die of flu every year...I doubt a significant percentage of population will be seriously affected?
        As I understand it 80% of us will probably get it and be slightly ill. This is what we need to build what they call herd immunity because like the flu it probably won't get away. Like the flu it seems to kill the weak. I'm not especially worried about getting it but I am worried about my parents in their eighties but they live in a little village where they're probably safer. It was interesting to hear a behavioural psychologist on the tv say that he thinks it will affect our society by making us more community spirited. I disagree. In Italy families are still very close and several generations live together like in China and look at their death toll. I think our modern more isolationist society will work in our favour for once. To put it into perspective take a look at this chart my neighbour shared on Facebook. She's not an alarmist, she's an NHS matron. I never knew how many people still died of TB but look at the measles stats and people still don't get their children vaccinated!

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        • #49
          Originally posted by PeeJay View Post
          As I understand it 80% of us will probably get it and be slightly ill. This is what we need to build what they call herd immunity because like the flu it probably won't get away. Like the flu it seems to kill the weak. I'm not especially worried about getting it but I am worried about my parents in their eighties but they live in a little village where they're probably safer. It was interesting to hear a behavioural psychologist on the tv say that he thinks it will affect our society by making us more community spirited. I disagree. In Italy families are still very close and several generations live together like in China and look at their death toll. I think our modern more isolationist society will work in our favour for once. To put it into perspective take a look at this chart my neighbour shared on Facebook. She's not an alarmist, she's an NHS matron. I never knew how many people still died of TB but look at the measles stats and people still don't get their children vaccinated!

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          I'm not sure it's comparable to look at a death rate comparison of a disease which has only infected 150,000 worldwide and put it next to something like TB which 2 Billion people worldwide are currently infected with and 9 Million a year develop the disease.

          Comparing it to seasonal flu with the limited data we have, it is much worse.

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          • #50
            Just to be clear the 150k is tested cases there will be thousands who wouldn't have been tested who would have had the virus too.


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            • #51
              Originally posted by simwells View Post
              That?s what I thought never seen publicly by any number of people til the 2000?s quite an interesting random bit of history!


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              Definitely makes sense why you thought that.. don?t know why I thought it was a common comment from WW2

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              • #52
                The 80% scenario is absolute worst case

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                • #53
                  And France has just been locked down!

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by gojira View Post
                    And France has just been locked down!
                    Just seen that.... Christ......


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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by cohibaIV View Post
                      Just seen that.... Christ......


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                      Yeah. We were already struggling to survive where I work. I think that this will kill us. But look at the bright side, more time for cigars now, lol.

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                      • #56
                        I'm on work from home now with prospect of kids being off school for weeks.

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                        • #57
                          Spain in lockdown too, but I try to look at the positive side: lockdown in Belgium= sitting inside when outside the temperature is 5 degrees or lockdown Spain where Incan smoke a cigar on the terrace with 23 [emoji848][emoji848]


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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by gojira View Post
                            Yeah. We were already struggling to survive where I work. I think that this will kill us. But look at the bright side, more time for cigars now, lol.
                            Hope things change for the better sooner rather than later Mike..

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by cohibaIV View Post
                              Hope things change for the better sooner rather than later Mike..

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                              • #60
                                I work in an industry where we are visiting 6 or more homes a day. Difficult for us as our business would be gone after a month of isolation.

                                However one of my employees is Italian and he is passing on what is going on back home. Its not just old people, there are cases of younger healthy people dying of this thing. Just because 80 percent get mild symptoms means the rest are getting it bad. And with the hospitals packed good luck getting any treatment.

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