BREXIT is a reality in 9 days

[PeeJay]

I have to be a pedant here: More people voted in the 1992 general election and it had a higher turnout.

Its good to be pedantic and happy to be corrected

[Emaresee]

The brexiteers lied to everyone (leavers included), suggesting impossible and paradoxical outcomes with no technical solution like Ireland having 2 customs unions with no hard border.

I think they should be held accountable. However, all politicians lie about what they are going to deliver so what's new.

Remainers lied to no one - merely citing that trade agreements are only a good thing and leaving the biggest single market on the planet is not likely going to be beneficial at all.

Jacob Rees Mogg says the benefit of leaving will not be felt for 50 years. Digby Jones reckons 100. Leavers seem happy with this temporary hit to their back pocket musing that it'll be alright in the end! We'll that's uncharacteristically altirustic of them as they won't likely be alive to reap the rewards. Were they voting for their children? Their children voted remain. Sounds like bollocks to me - seems they're still happy to march to the beat of a drum that stopped beating a while back. Humans just aren't that altirustic - especially those voting for better outcomes for themselves (which of course is fine).

Whether we'll be able to forge better agreements moving forwards is simply yet to be seen and I'm generally an optimistic person, but I don't think leaving was a good idea as there's no evidence to suggest so, and I only believe in evidence.

Astutely and accurately observed!

If the numbers guys are around the cost of Brexit makes CAD look entirely reasonable.... the promises to put ?350m in the bank every week makes UK regionals seem reachable!!

[geoffbot]

Astutely and accurately observed!

If the numbers guys are around the cost of Brexit makes CAD look entirely reasonable.... the promises to put ?350m in the bank every week makes UK regionals seem reachable!!

Do we get uk regionals?

[Emaresee]

Why do people assume anyone who voted leave is xenophobic?

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I dont think they do. BUT there is an overwhelming core of brexiteers who were willing to call out their motivations as being just that... and it sells newspapers, and whips up support at the lowest common denominator. A nasty circle. Sadly. In the same way that remainers were broadly painted as leftist. And left I am not! all shades... in all areas, but politics requires a polarisation of views... hence we've not had a centerist government in modern times where media is so very powerful. IMHO...

[Emaresee]

Do we get uk regionals?

oh yes... the legendary Flor de Cano of about 7/8 years ago... ERDM La reina of 2018 etc...

[ha_banos]

Do we get uk regionals?

Aye.

[7kingsguy]

Aye.

Great marketing opportunity for h and f. The new uk regional 7x 70 baseball bat 'the petit brexit' with a curly head just like Boris.

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[geoffbot]

Why do people assume anyone who voted leave is xenophobic?


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For sure - not all who voted are, but of course all xenophobes did vote brexit (if that's their core belief).

Also its pretty much the only reason for voting leave that has a guaranteed outcome that you want! Unless somehow post brexit we open our borders more, which I suppose is possible if unlikely.

[Kickback]

Interesting view.

[geoffbot]

I'm on a crowded train and 30 Spanish schoolkids just got on talking loudly 'Maria Maria, como esta aqui tambien PORQUE NADA'. Currently I'm pleased with the brexit result...

[PeeJay]

I'm on a crowded train and 30 Spanish schoolkids just got on talking loudly 'Maria Maria, como esta aqui tambien PORQUE NADA'. Currently I'm pleased with the brexit result...

Google translates that as 'how are you here also BECAUSE NOTHING' so I'm still none the wiser

[Shaun]

People who believe the conservatives will cut immigration? They haven't for the past 10 years and wont do so now. We will end up with more people from Asia like Indians etc. Spectacular own goal for some brexiters.

[simwells]

I suspect it will cut immigration from Europe though it'll just be made up from other countries instead

Or they may move to a points based system which is specifically designed to increase immigration like Australia

[geoffbot]

People who believe the conservatives will cut immigration? They haven't for the past 10 years and wont do so now. We will end up with more people from Asia like Indians etc. Spectacular own goal for some brexiters.

Well yes it'll mean fewer Europeans most likely. Not 'less pakis' as I've heard an eloquent Leaver on the radio suggest.

[Shaun]

Well yes it'll mean fewer Europeans most likely. Not 'less pakis' as I've heard an eloquent Leaver on the radio suggest.

Fewer Europeans, but we will have to make the numbers up elsewhere.