Ross.co stop it!

[ValeTudoGuy]

What about the part where you tried to get Tommy to sell them for ?250? and the part where you told PJ you got them for ?126???? How do you account for that?

[Ross.Co]

Read the below. I am talking myself out of nothing and you Sir are nasty. Plain and simple.

Good Afternoon VTG,

Trust all is well with you.

In the previous post in regards to my ‘profiteering’ and dishonourable dealings, that was a non-malicious, non-intentional mistake. I was asked what a pack of Artuto Fuente King T cost. I said around $50.00 USD. It turned out I messed up and they were only $27.30 per pack. Now this was my MISTAKE. I should have checked the price I paid before mentioning a cost. Now, this actually made me feel awful, in fact I would say it actually made me pretty depressed about it all. I had pissed off two very lovely people. The real kicker here is that I DO NOT need to make ?17.00 in a transaction, so profiteering is completely out of the window.

In regards to the most recent event, I will find a way of putting up the conversation between Mo and myself. I had no idea what I originally paid, I asked Mo for guidance and I took a number of ?200. Why ?200? Well, I remembered paying over a hundred, but not sure how much. I take it your cost of ?123.00 is for a 10 year old box, in perfect condition?

I am NOT toxic, a waste of space or any other words you would chose to try to discredit me and who I am. READ the below and hopefully you will see how it ‘went down’

Without doubt I have money to burn. I do not need to make ?17 in the last bad trade or ?80 in this one. I am NEW to the World of cigars and I asked Mo for his advice several times. I also asked Tommy and Groundhog. I even let Groundhog CHOOSE what to trade for the love of God. This is not about the money either as I asked to do a trade.
Here is the transcript from WhatsApp – This is not the person you are making me out to be.
[18/01 2:04 pm] Ross Nicholson: I have a box of 2005 Punch Margaritas I am looking too trade or sell. Don't you know anyone who would be interested? Perfect condition and aged beautifully ��
[18/01 2:06 pm] Mo Surma: I dont like skinny sticks but I can put feelers out how much
[18/01 2:22 pm] Ross Nicholson: No sure on price Mo. Maybe just see what is offered
[18/01 2:22 pm] Ross Nicholson: I'm also have some Cohiba Lanceros as well from 2009
[18/01 2:23 pm] Mo Surma: Is not how its done pal you have to give them a price
[18/01 2:24 pm] Ross Nicholson: What about when you trade? Price still required? Any idea from you what they would be worth?
[18/01 2:25 pm] Mo Surma: No idea on worth trading naturally no price needed but can get complicated
[18/01 2:29 pm] Ross Nicholson: Say ?200?
[18/01 3:03 pm] Mo Surma: For
[18/01 3:04 pm] Ross Nicholson: For?
[18/01 3:08 pm] Ross Nicholson: ?400?
[18/01 3:09 pm] Mo Surma: No ?200 for what
[18/01 3:10 pm] Ross Nicholson: The box?
[18/01 3:10 pm] Ross Nicholson: I am not so good with this Mo. Need some help comrade
[18/01 3:10 pm] Ross Nicholson: On prices etc
[18/01 3:11 pm] Ross Nicholson: Best deal for both parties
[18/01 3:12 pm] Mo Surma: So 200 for 25 punch or 200 for 25 cohiba lans
[18/01 3:13 pm] Ross Nicholson: 200 for punch
[18/01 3:14 pm] Ross Nicholson: The Lancs come in packs of 5

Thanks VTG for your misconceived and outright nasty post.

And if we are airing our laundry to dry - at least my sheets are clean.

Tommy fronted a trade for 10 Maduro 5 Genios from myself to Mo. Mo had no idea.How much did you pay Mo for those cigars? I am pretty sure Tommy made a profit.

Tommy also told me when I was first beginning here that when you do a box split of say 5 cigars, you make enough on the sale to cover your own. PeeJay was the person Tommy related this type of practice to.

On top of that, he owes me ?100 for cigars he has bought from me. Have aI been paid, or did a massive issue suddenly appear over a mistake of ?17?

Tommy - I want my money.

[Ross.Co]

What about the part where you tried to get Tommy to sell them for ?250? and the part where you told PJ you got them for ?126???? How do you account for that?

|Tommy is a liar. He owes me money, made profits on others, repeatedly and i DID NOT get him to sell the Margaritas. I bearly knew what I was doing 3 months ago on this forum VTG.

Please also acknowledge my reply to yours. A bit of common decency and respect, of which I have both. Not the same for a few here from what I can see and have heard.

VTG - Read my post and reply in kind.

[oskihen]

With regards to Mr Ross I think the best approach is as I have been doing and ignore him , I was extrememly surprised when he reard his head again last week , and even more surprised when botl replied to his posts .
Sadly I feel some people are just best avoided .!!!!!!!!

[Budgie Smuggler]

So let me get this straight Ross, you've attempted to subvert the form rules for at least the second time, but you're the victim?

[Budgie Smuggler]

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[butternutsquashpie]

Where's Mo and PJ's take on this?

I haven't seen a serious post from Mo in months!

[oskihen]

And if we are airing our laundry to dry - at least my sheets are clean.

Tommy fronted a trade for 10 Maduro 5 Genios from myself to Mo. Mo had no idea.How much did you pay Mo for those cigars? I am pretty sure Tommy made a profit.

Tommy also told me when I was first beginning here that when you do a box split of say 5 cigars, you make enough on the sale to cover your own. PeeJay was the person Tommy related this type of practice to.

On top of that, he owes me ?100 for cigars he has bought from me. Have aI been paid, or did a massive issue suddenly appear over a mistake of ?17?

Tommy - I want my money.

I have this sneaky suspicion your not long for this forum Ross

[ValeTudoGuy]

Which part do you want me to respond to?

[butternutsquashpie]

Which part do you want me to respond to?

Preferably the contradictions...

The only thing we have in the cigar community is the word of another person. When I ship a cheque halfway around the world for some cigars, I trust the money goes to the right person and I get my end despite never meeting them. This is the beauty of the cigar world - something that is rare elsewhere.
When contradictions occur, it bewilders me.

[Ross.Co]

I have this sneaky suspicion your not long for this forum Ross

Nice, real nice.

Am sure PJ will reply, and after getting to know him would not think in a million years that he would look to make a profit.

I was just speaking with Mo on the telephone. Am hopeful for his reply.

Ross.Co

[ValeTudoGuy]

P.S I like the tactic of trying to discredit anyone mentioned.

[cigarmo]

Where's Mo and PJ's take on this?

I haven't seen a serious post from Mo in months!

A serious post Butters thats because you cant read

Ross I dont mind you posting the whatsapp conversation, at least it shows I had nothing to do with the price. Thanks for that.

For anyone else that doesn't know I did not try to sell the cigars for Ross, I asked some members/friends for there opinion.

[Ross.Co]

So let me get this straight Ross, you've attempted to subvert the form rules for at least the second time, but you're the victim?

I am not a victim, although I am being abused by people who actually know nothing of the situation.....

In regards to asking Mo to see if anyone would like to purchase some cigars, no I am not the victim. I called Mo just now. I apologised, he said no need AS HE KNOWS I DID NOT DO ANYTHING| WITH HARMFUL OR PROFITEERING PURPOSES.

I am a victim by Tommy not paying me. He should pay his debts.

Many of the people here on this forum are victims.

[Ross.Co]

A serious post Butters thats because you cant read

Ross I dont mind you posting the whatsapp conversation, at least it shows I had nothing to do with the price. Thanks for that.

For anyone else that doesn't know I did not try to sell the cigars for Ross, I asked some members/friends for there opinion.

Thank you Mo. You had nothing to do with the price and I thought a 10 year old box would cost a little but more than a 1 year old box. Than you for taking my call and accepting my apology for this mistake.

VTG looking for a fight maybe? Anyhow, most of you have been ripped off. I feel sorry for you. I feel sorry for myself as this is happening.