And another bit of civil liberty is lost

[PeeJay]

Smoking to be banned in cars from October next year

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2827571/Ban-smoking-cars-passed-law-weeks-come-force-October-2015.html

[oskihen]

Well after reading the article PJ have to agree with it smoking in a car or anywhere near children is wrong in so many ways

[PeeJay]

Well after reading the article PJ have to agree with it smoking in a car or anywhere near children is wrong in so many ways

Agreed, I wouldn't smoke in my car because I don't want it to smell, same reason I wouldn't carry a dog in it. What I object to is being told what I can and can't do in my car when it has no relation to road safety.

[oskihen]

The article says it will be illegal to smoke in a car with children in it nothing about being on your own

[PeeJay]

The article says it will be illegal to smoke in a car with children in it nothing about being on your own

That will teach me to read beyond the hysterical headlines! I plead guilty to a knee jerk Mail reader reaction, shoot me now!

[oskihen]

Sadly It will come one day though

[Sgt_Banter]

Well after reading the article PJ have to agree with it smoking in a car or anywhere near children is wrong in so many ways

I agree and I understand why it is being done but I really don't like the nanny state. God I hate politics

[oskihen]

Sadly you need the nanny state sometimes because of the thick low life shit in this country who have no idea about morals , respect, child care etc.......

[Rob Royston]

I agree with banning it. Not for health reasons, but because it's something that can take away full control of the vehicle your driving.
I'll say this again though, what's the point of bringing out laws that can't be enforced.

[PeeJay]

I agree with banning it. Not for health reasons, but because it's something that can take away full control of the vehicle your driving.
I'll say this again though, what's the point of bringing out laws that can't be enforced.

That's very true, how many van drivers have you seen smoking in their place of work? And who does anything about it?

[Simon Bolivar]

?10.000 fine? Never happen. Texting on the phone ?100 I believe, might result in an immediate accident affecting life & limb; smoking in the car with kids (& maybe with a window open) is unpleasent (I used to hate my mother doing it) which apart from unpleasent might not have any ill effects fine ?10,00 which would bankcrupt most offenders. Get real. Fine for not having a National fishing licence ?2,000+ fines for serious sh*t peanuts. In the RN they used to base the fine on your rate of pay so every fine was he same ie 5 pays pay hurt the higher ups as much as the juniors. Shame the law can't work in a similar manner. Good night.

[PeeJay]

Shame the law can't work in a similar manner. Good night.

It does in the enlightened countries of Scandinavia

[Undercover]

In the RN they used to base the fine on your rate of pay so every fine was he same ie 5 pays pay hurt the higher ups as much as the juniors. Shame the law can't work in a similar manner. Good night.

That brought back memories ... Not of my own misdemeanours though (!), but providing mitigation for or defending members of my Division at Defaulters. A couple of serious offences, but mostly simple stuff - drunk, late for work/duty, insubordinate.

And an amusing incident where one of my guys got drunk and decided to play war games, chucked a can of lager into the Ops Room in the Falklands, pretending it was a grenade, went on the run, got caught, arrested, RAF Police left the window open, he escaped, etc. We had a laugh trying that one.

[PeeJay]

RAF Police left the window open, he escaped, etc.

Good old snowdrops playing at being police when they're really just security guards (yes I'm an RAF child)

[Undercover]

Good old snowdrops playing at being police when they're really just security guards (yes I'm an RAF child)

Me too, though funnily enough I think my dad was relieved when I announced I was joining the RN.