We should stop smoking

[smokey joe]

Just you tubed gouching and now a bit less of a sheltered life & feeling like ignorance was bliss!

[groundhog]

I mean no disrespect, but which service is it that confuses the euphoric state induced by heroin (gouching) and 'clucking', which is a commonly recognised term for withdrawing/cold turkey.

No worries....
Generally youth service and charity/vol orgs - Have worked with kids in Yorkshire for the past twenty years and it's been a commonly used term for withdrawal. I've never heard of clucking used round here. But looking at the internet it seems both the workers and service users have been wrong!


Sent from deepest darkest Yorkshire, by magic..

[SilentBOb]

Just you tubed gouching and now a bit less of a sheltered life & feeling like ignorance was bliss!

I particularly like Urban Dictionary's definition!

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[cj121]

No worries....
Generally youth service and charity/vol orgs - Have worked with kids in Yorkshire for the past twenty years and it's been a commonly used term for withdrawal. I've never heard of clucking uses round hear. But looking at the internet it seems both the workers and service users have been wrong!

Sent from deepest darkest Yorkshire, by magic..

Thanks for replying GH there's one for the next team meeting ay It's interesting how language, and especially that adopted by young people on certain scenes can get transformed in an almost 'Chinese whispery' way

Sorry folks, I took that a bit off topic : /

[mattyhall22]

No worries....
Generally youth service and charity/vol orgs - Have worked with kids in Yorkshire for the past twenty years and it's been a commonly used term for withdrawal. I've never heard of clucking used round here. But looking at the internet it seems both the workers and service users have been wrong!

Must be a regional thing, with us it's "rattling"

[EdBlackadder]

Stopping smoking shouldn't be an economic decision. The health cost is one of loss of quality and length of life, not mere money. We've all seen people suffer with crippling emphysema, COPD and long cancer. These are diseases that destroy your ability to live a satisfying life long before they end your life. Would they exist without smoking, yes but no where near as commonly nor would they progress as fast.

Cigarettes are far worse than cigars or pipes but we have to enjoy this hobby with the knowledge we are playing with addictive, toxic chemicals. Personally, I accept those risks so I smoke the odd cigar. Its probably no worse for me than binge drinking with the rugby club a couple of times a year. But I do so with my eyes open.

Sorry for the rant.

[Undercover]

This interests me because my health was the first issue my wife raised, so I went away and did a bit of research to understand just what kind of risk I was undertaking. We all take discretionary risks - from skydiving to DIY - and do so because there is some kind of reward or benefit, or at least avoidance of some kind of penalty. Most of the time, we don't even bother to quantify what those risks are. Has anyone who's been scuba diving, for example, read up on the incidence of diving accidents? Smoking is, of course, different, because it is so extensively written about, because the health warnings scream at us from every carton or box and because we are told that government taxes tobacco heavily because it is bad for us. It is also an extremely passionate debate!

I am neither a statistician nor medical professional, but it was important to me to come to a reasonably dis-passionate understanding of the risks. I didn't want to be told that 'hey, cigars are perfectly safe' because that seems no more plausible than assuming the dangers of cigar smoking are exactly equivalent to cigarette smoking. In fact, if the risks were the same as cigarette smoking, I would have gone no further, left the forum, thrown away my meagre collection of cigars and found something else to do.

I could write an essay on what I read but ultimately I feel that I am also doing this with my eyes open, with an understanding that the risks are acceptably small, given what I get out of it ... and I should probably get back to work ...

[TJCoro]

undercover brother

I could write an essay on what I read but ultimately I feel that I am also doing this with my eyes open, with an understanding that the risks are acceptably small, given what I get out of it ... and I should probably get back to work ...

in my view one stick a day is generally thought to be a acceptable level of risk for smoking cigars but sometimes i smoke more than taht in my opinion

bb

[mattyhall22]

I'm more concerned with the upcoming zombie apocalypse!

[cj121]

I enjoy tobacco products, but I have to stop inhaling. Being a regular smoker, this is something that whilst I generally don't wish to give up, I realise that in terms of health and longevity it has to happen. We've two lads under five and keeping the financial boat afloat, and enjoying them, means I'm going to give it a go on/around my approaching 50th. I shan't abstain from cigars and a bowl though.

[Andy 84]

I've been considering buying a motorbike to commute to work on so I can work more normal hours and not get stuck in the rush hour traffic. I've been put off by the accident statistics for motorbikes though, and to me the risks of injury or death from riding a motorbike are far greater than from smoking a couple of cigars per week. I do some other fairly dangerous stuff too that is more of a concern to me. I'd like to see some proper statistics about cigar smoking though, I have a feeling it is no where near as bad as drinking and a world apart from smoking cigarettes.

[snooky]

I have to agree with the goverment on this one, it is a dangerous filthy habit...... Oh by the way i'll take first offer on any unwanted sticks !

[cj121]

Must be a regional thing, with us it's "rattling"

Yup, 'round here too, or "do your cluck"

[TonyN]

Would be very intresting to see what would happen if all smokers gave up where would the government get all the tobacco tax from.
I'm pretty sure they would sting us somewhere else.

[TonyN]

What i've been hearing last couple of days is if labour win the next general election next year milibands first priority
is to tax the smokers and give the money to the NHS.