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  • #16
    Originally posted by ValeTudoGuy View Post
    I left the Police after five years, I thought for most of my life it was what I wanted and that it would be a life career for me.... I'm glad I left looking back. Follow your heart mate, money isn't everything.... You gotta live to your passions! Martyn RCH was a butler I believe, so perhaps he can chirp up with some experience of the trade?
    Left? I thought they must have thrown you out for being a sun worshipping pinko liberal! These county Mounties are very conservative.
    Last edited by PeeJay; 05-08-2014, 07:31 AM.
    'Cigars are a hobby, cigarettes an addiction'

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    • #17
      I would go with your heart pal.
      Try and get 'the wheels in motion', possibly in the background of your day job.
      Once you're set, it'd definitely be worth a shot if that's what you want to do.
      Life's too short. Better to go with your heart than live a life of regret?
      All the VERY best
      Here's a cigar to you and your future:

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      • #18
        I'd go for it Nick, do the course, even if you don't get a job at the end of it, you've done the course, gained some of the experience and I know you would always find employment back in your current carreer.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by PeeJay View Post
          Left? I thought they must have thrown you out for being a sun worshipping pinko liberal! These county Mounties are very conservative.
          Hardly Pinko, more completely jaded and in danger of becoming too far the other way.

          I like to think I'm fairly well balanced though.
          Licky Licky before Sticky Sticky. - Puff Scotty 22/03/14

          Originally posted by PeeJay
          I get longing looks from guys walking past

          Originally posted by butternutsquashpie
          A purge follows a rapid puffing session.

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          • #20
            I should introduce you to my brother, he's a Wiccan images-1.jpeg
            'Cigars are a hobby, cigarettes an addiction'

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Sludgie View Post
              Here's a question for all you chaps whilst I'm in a contemplative mood. Have any of you ever followed your hearts and embarked on a radical career change? The reason I ask is that I really am thinking about it. As you may know, I work as as a project manager designing training courses, but I have to say my heart isn't really in it. I've always wanted to be a Butler (some may say a strange choice). I really need to do it before I get much older. Do I plod along in a job that my heart simply isn't in, or go for it? I know I'll always regret it if I don't give it a go...I would respect any opinions or advice anyone on the forum could offer....Sorry for the somewhat random question! Nick...
              Hi Sludgie
              Big career change and wanting to be a butler
              I spent 10 years training and working as a Butler in a city livery company had a fantastic time
              You get a little to accustomed to fine foods , wine , and cigars
              You also have little time of your own to enjoy
              I started training at 16 left at 26 to go Into hotel management for Hilton Group
              However the amount of royalty I met and served was probably everyone inc the queen mother the queen and every other significant royal before William was born served princess Diana on more that a dozen occasions and princess Ann plenty of times as well as fergie andy Charles Edward etc etc etc
              If you have plenty of time on your hands and want the rest of your career in servitude
              Then go for it . It's a great time
              Martyn
              A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke

              Groucho Marx

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              • #22
                Originally posted by RobustoClubHavana View Post
                If you have plenty of time on your hands and want the rest of your career in servitude
                Then go for it . It's a great time
                Martyn
                And therein lies the nub
                'Cigars are a hobby, cigarettes an addiction'

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Sludgie View Post
                  Well, that's what probably has put me off up until now. The course I want to do will cost me 10K, and there is no guarantee of a job. I really am getting to the stage where I am just willing to go for it though...
                  OMG 10k for a course that is a F****ng liberty
                  Life skills an eye for detail manners politeness a great memory as you will need to always remember the special requirements of everyone you encounter
                  A good ironing arm especially for the newspapers :-)
                  Well turned out and all the little things that get drilled into u like always leave a room backwards
                  Lay up of cutlery a thumbnail from the lower edge of the table
                  100 different napkin folds
                  Don't forget silver dipping the cutlery
                  Cleaning the guilt loving cups and rosewater dishes
                  And the main thing managing the household servant staff as the butler is the boss
                  I suppose there are many many things you would be taught but they are now 2nd nature to me after so long as a butler
                  A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke

                  Groucho Marx

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by RobustoClubHavana View Post
                    OMG 10k for a course that is a F****ng liberty
                    Life skills an eye for detail manners politeness a great memory as you will need to always remember the special requirements of everyone you encounter
                    A good ironing arm especially for the newspapers :-)
                    Well turned out and all the little things that get drilled into u like always leave a room backwards
                    Lay up of cutlery a thumbnail from the lower edge of the table
                    100 different napkin folds
                    Don't forget silver dipping the cutlery
                    Cleaning the guilt loving cups and rosewater dishes
                    And the main thing managing the household servant staff as the butler is the boss
                    I suppose there are many many things you would be taught but they are now 2nd nature to me after so long as a butler
                    All the courses are quite expensive, but the best one seems to be the one run by Rick Fink of the Butler Valet School at Witney in Oxford. It's a 4 week course using Ditchley Park as a base. Rick has 55 years in the trade, and was actually an ex PO Steward in the Royal Navy.

                    I know some people are looking at this and thinking wtf, he must be mad, but it's a long-held ambition.

                    Think I'm going to go for it...

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                    • #25
                      Career change

                      Sludgie, there's nothing mad about it, mad is being in a position where you've worked at the same place for 18 years and been deeply unhappy for the last 6 but stay purely because of the wages.

                      Best of luck to you, whatever you decide I hope it works out.
                      Last edited by Budgie Smuggler; 05-08-2014, 12:07 PM.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Sludgie View Post
                        All the courses are quite expensive, but the best one seems to be the one run by Rick Fink of the Butler Valet School at Witney in Oxford. It's a 4 week course using Ditchley Park as a base. Rick has 55 years in the trade, and was actually an ex PO Steward in the Royal Navy.

                        I know some people are looking at this and thinking wtf, he must be mad, but it's a long-held ambition.

                        Think I'm going to go for it...
                        Good luck and enjoy
                        A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke

                        Groucho Marx

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                        • #27
                          Do it bud.
                          If you will be okay financially meanwhile, then do it

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                          • #28
                            If you feel you could afford it then go for it mate you are in charge of your life

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                            • #29
                              Thank you to everyone who replied and gave their advice. It's much appreciated. I've decided to stick my current job and save up the 10k from that and then do the course. At least then it's effectively cost neutral. Hopefully it will lead to a position either at home or abroad. I've seen some great looking jobs in Saudi for Butlers and Under Butlers.

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                              • #30
                                Sounds good to me buddy! All the best! [emoji4]

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