Benefits Street

[searsa1]

He is rich.....we don't deport rich people here! Just sit back and enjoy the slow downward spiral. We are not even at the booze/cocaine/crack whore binge stage yet.

[PeeJay]

As I read the other day, a lot of talented musicians fall foul of the law and get arrested and so has Justin Bieber.

[searsa1]

As I read the other day, a lot of talented musicians fall foul of the law and get arrested and so has Justin Bieber.

That is the first time I have ever seen the words "talented musicians" and "Justin Bieber" in the same sentence. He is young and has money. It would appear thus far he has made some bad decisions. In the future I would hope he will surround himself with people who will keep him out of trouble and occasionally he will hear the word "no". It is possible that if he is convicted of the current charges he could be deported. We shall see.

[PeeJay]

English sarcasm was wasted there I feel Aaron

[Joncon]

Benefits Street

This is a great article that debunks some of the tabloid myths (multiple generations claiming, disability benefits and large families) that keep us from focusing on the real problems facing governments. I feel like government and taxes, benefits are the best worst option.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/apr/06/welfare-britain-facts-myths

[searsa1]

English sarcasm was wasted there I feel Aaron

Ah! Sorry I missed it.

[cigarmo]

This is a great article that debunks some of the tabloid myths (multiple generations claiming, disability benefits and large families) that keep us from focusing on the real problems facing governments. I feel like government and taxes, benefits are the best worst option.

what article ?

[ValeTudoGuy]

This is a great article that debunks some of the tabloid myths (multiple generations claiming, disability benefits and large families) that keep us from focusing on the real problems facing governments. I feel like government and taxes, benefits are the best worst option.

If I read this correctly, then I understand you feel that the multiple generation issue is a tabloid myth?
Well I know nothing of your background or your station in life so I don't wish to accuse you of blindness, but please believe me when I say that it is no myth.....
It is real and vast in certain sections of society, I have seen it with my own eyes. I have worked hard to help people like this, I have attempted to provided guidance to children who's parents were trying their damnedest to keep in their own mind set of take what is given and take a bit more because there will likely be little or no recourse.

Not all of these people are "bad", I like to think that many have a misaligned set of morals...... But by and away the vast majority of them will take what you hand them, they will then take what they think you can't see them taking and if they get caught they will ask for your help only to take your generosity so they can move on to start the cycle again.

[Joncon]

what article ?

Sorry edited.

[Joncon]

Benefits Street

If I read this correctly, then I understand you feel that the multiple generation issue is a tabloid myth?
Well I know nothing of your background or your station in life so I don't wish to accuse you of blindness, but please believe me when I say that it is no myth.....
It is real and vast in certain sections of society, I have seen it with my own eyes. I have worked hard to help people like this, I have attempted to provided guidance to children who's parents were trying their damnedest to keep in their own mind set of take what is given and take a bit more because there will likely be little or no recourse.

Not all of these people are "bad", I like to think that many have a misaligned set of morals...... But by and away the vast majority of them will take what you hand them, they will then take what they think you can't see them taking and if they get caught they will ask for your help only to take your generosity so they can move on to start the cycle again.

It would be foolhardy to believe these people don't exist. The point is that they are the the 0.5% and less and should be dealt with, not used as some kind of standard by which to make policy.

The article again as I left it off the last post.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/apr/06/welfare-britain-facts-myths

[ValeTudoGuy]

It would be foolhardy to believe these people don't exist. The point is that they are the <0.5% of claimants and as such should be dealt with but not used as some sort of standard by which to make policy.

That article again.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...in-facts-myths

With the greatest respect, I don't need an article to tell me what I have spent a large chunk of my adult life dealing with.

We all know figures can be made to paint whatever picture you want, I will stick to believing my own life experiences.

[romeos]

I haven't watched it and have no intention of doing so, the whole country is going to the dogs from the top to the bottom. I am retiring to the country to enjoy wine, the odd cigarand golf ( if helping the wife gardening gives me enough time) enough said.

[PeeJay]

One of the saddest moments in my friend's life when she asked her grandaughter what she wanted to do when she grew up. 'I'm going to get my money from the Post Office like mummy'.

[PeeJay]

I haven't watched it and have no intention of doing so, the whole country is going to the dogs from the top to the bottom. I am retiring to the country to enjoy wine, the odd cigarand golf ( if helping the wife gardening gives me enough time) enough said.

You jammy git!

[Joncon]

I am sure your time in policing has, like many of my friends working in the met, given you an an opinion based on some of the worst members of this society. But I would suggest as does most studies of crime that it is committed by the minority so we should not paint the majority by there standard.