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  • #16
    Originally posted by Joncon View Post
    Benefits account for only 23% of all public spending and 47% of that is spent on state pensions. As for benefit fraud it only adds up to 1%.

    If you want to worry about something I would suggest tax avoidance a very common practice used by those who can afford its methods.
    And big corporations
    'Cigars are a hobby, cigarettes an addiction'

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    • #17
      Kill Everybody! I won't give up my right to bear arms!!!

      Whoops wrong country...

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Puff Scotty View Post
        Kill Everybody! I won't give up my right to bear arms!!!

        Whoops wrong country...
        Not according to Mr Salmon, but that's a another whole can of worms...
        'Cigars are a hobby, cigarettes an addiction'

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Joncon View Post

          If you want to worry about something I would suggest tax avoidance a very common practice used by those who can afford its methods.
          Originally posted by PeeJay View Post
          And big corporations
          See I disagree, if someone came to me and said I could LEGALLY cut my tax bill in half I would be asking where to sign and I think most on here would too.

          If the politicians want to close the loopholes they can, Christ you have to tell the tax man how your doing it.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Sligub View Post
            See I disagree, if someone came to me and said I could LEGALLY cut my tax bill in half I would be asking where to sign and I think most on here would too.

            If the politicians want to close the loopholes they can, Christ you have to tell the tax man how your doing it.
            I'd be happy with an efficient taxman. I have a wage and a pension and I'm still paying them back three grand because they fucked up three years ago. And they get my tax wrong every single year.
            'Cigars are a hobby, cigarettes an addiction'

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            • #21
              Originally posted by PeeJay View Post
              And just to back up Agricola's point

              http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ts-Street.html
              amazing how the DM can always find a Asian to pick on.

              someone has to provide housing for the people on welfare and it's not the landlords fault that they have to take the rent from the welfare system.

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              • #22
                Some People get angry but I do not know one person who would swap there lives with people who are on these type of programs,


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                • #23
                  Originally posted by cigarmo View Post
                  amazing how the DM can always find a Asian to pick on.
                  He's an evil Tory landowner too, where's the Socialist rags when you need them?
                  'Cigars are a hobby, cigarettes an addiction'

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by cigarmo View Post
                    amazing how the DM can always find a Asian to pick on.
                    Well pointed out Sir....the DM failed to point out though, that the said Asian has been a supporter of both Labour & Conservative...when it suited him financially.....so, obviously he's as neutral as the DM itself...

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Sean View Post
                      If i lost my job i would be right down to mcdonalds or subway or anywere like am not proud i will work anywere than having to depend on dole money.
                      Couldn't agree more, this is exactly the attitude everyone should have when looking for work, there is no job beneath anyone if they can't find a 'better' one

                      While I completely agree with having a system to support anyone out of work, it should support them find a job, unfortunately the current system means that it often pays more to not work than work in a low paid job (when my brother was looking for work a few years ago this is exactly what happened to him, but he chose to work)

                      The general attitude towards it from the job centre doesn't help matters, my sister-in-law went into the job centre after she lost her job a year or so ago to get help finding another job, and they wouldn't do anything until she had filled out the benefits claim forms and submitted them (she had no intention of claiming benefits, all she wanted wanted was help getting another job), her claim was rejected and she ended up finding a cleaning job without any help from them. I couldn't believe that they were forcing her to claim benefits before they would help!

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Sligub View Post
                        See I disagree, if someone came to me and said I could LEGALLY cut my tax bill in half I would be asking where to sign and I think most on here would too.

                        If the politicians want to close the loopholes they can, Christ you have to tell the tax man how your doing it.
                        That's a choice we each must make whether to be legal or whether to be moral.

                        The problem with any system is people will learn to bend it to their will be it benefit system or tax system.

                        I would be happy to see both system shaken up and made fairer.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Joncon View Post
                          That's a choice we each must make whether to be legal or whether to be moral.
                          I would be amazed if anyone on here has never avoided tax at some point, be it duty, Vat, paid in cash for a discount, got paid in cash, didn't pay the poll tax and countless more that everyone does. Are these choices immoral as well as illegal?

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                          • #28
                            Kill all taxmen...sorry! I meant taxpersons...

                            note to self.." must not get the PC brigade fired up....

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                            • #29
                              “There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not want merely because you think it would be good for him.”
                              Robert A. Heinlein, The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress
                              'Cigars are a hobby, cigarettes an addiction'

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                              • #30
                                I'm most bothered about the blatant disregard of theft laws.... It's an example of complete contempt for the majority of society and an insight into a discusting attitude that a certain few have that hold the belief they are owed anything that want without putting an ounce of honest work towards it.

                                Anybody that supports this attitude by buying shady goods is just as bad.
                                Licky Licky before Sticky Sticky. - Puff Scotty 22/03/14

                                Originally posted by PeeJay
                                I get longing looks from guys walking past

                                Originally posted by butternutsquashpie
                                A purge follows a rapid puffing session.

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