UKCF members loyalty discount ?.

[JOAO LA PEZ]

If mention by name where i shop when abroad would that contravene the rules on here?.

[JOAO LA PEZ]

On the subject of human rights there are far more significant issues in this world than the price of cigars!
Sent from happy, clappy, tappy.

Points taken, but on here it's all about cigars.

[Drewmidorn]

I appreciate that the discussion of illegal activity is not in itself illegal. We could have a lovely in depth chat about the merits of Ed Gein and Ted Bundy and we'd only be lacking in taste.


HOWEVER


This is a cigar enthusiasts site, we buy cigars, we love cigars, we all know that cigars are heavily taxed in the UK. Any discussion of illegal sources for cigars, on these pages, appears very much like advice! I am not a lawyer but advising someone on how to commit an illegal act or admitting to having committed an illegal act is not the same as simply discussing illegal acts.... Words like conspiring, aiding and abetting all spring to mind.


It's not difficult to understand.

[tippexx]

I must say, quite blandly, and please don't take offence - I just simply do not understand why people can't in-turn understand these basic, basic principles. What am I missing?

Nothing.

And as far as I'm aware I haven't busted the discussion rules, nor would I look to drop anyone in the poo because of it. Life I think would be so much easier for you if it wasn't for Google and we still had a vendor on every high street!

[Drewmidorn]

Joao, if you travel abroad and pick up cigars within your allowance that is perfectly legal. I regularly pick up cigars when I am abroad. I have brought cigars back from abroad above my allowance and gone through the red channel at customs and declared them. The guys at customs were perfectly pleasant and exceptionally helpful. None of this is illegal behaviour.

[JOAO LA PEZ]

Joao, if you travel abroad and pick up cigars within your allowance that is perfectly legal. I regularly pick up cigars when I am abroad. I have brought cigars back from abroad above my allowance and gone through the red channel at customs and declared them. The guys at customs were perfectly pleasant and exceptionally helpful. None of this is illegal behaviour.

As an aside, did you get taxed on your whole amount or just those above the allowance

[Deano]

Joao I already said that was ok, and that's why we have a travel forum.

[JOAO LA PEZ]

Joao I already said that was ok, and that's why we have a travel forum.

Apologies Deano, my memory has just been jogged, the place in Gib is spoken of freely, doh.

[Drewmidorn]

As an aside, did you get taxed on your whole amount or just those above the allowance

Just those above the allowance.

[JOAO LA PEZ]

Just those above the allowance.

Best make sure i take plenty money when next returning from foreign climes like a jove with pockets bursting

[Deano]

BUT they may just confiscate the lot. Not just the excess. So it really is your risk.

[JOAO LA PEZ]

even if you declare them?

[Drewmidorn]

even if you declare them?

My understanding is that if you declare them you just pay the tax owing as you are not doing anything illegal at all. You turn up at customs, pay the tax and that's an end to it.

If you don't declare them and they stop you they can confiscate the lot... And probably worse involving rubber gloves and optional lube.

If you are travelling from the EU you don't have to declare anything that isn't for personal use. If you're travelling from upside the EU you don't have to declare anything under 50 cigars. From outside the EU Anything over 50 cigars has to have the tax paid on it.

[tippexx]

BUT they may just confiscate the lot.

Or, and this is a true story. Many moons ago a whole bunch of us including girls went on holiday to Spain. Arriving home, we all went through Customs OK, apart from one of the girls who was stopped and was found to be carrying a bottle of Whisky over her allowance. Customs wanted to confiscate it, she said NO, and did no more than walk back in the no-mans land area, sat down on the floor and proceeded to drink as much of it as she could.

Her nickname fourty or so years on is still Johnny Walker!

[monkey66]

Or, and this is a true story. Many moons ago a whole bunch of us including girls went on holiday to Spain. Arriving home, we all went through Customs OK, apart from one of the girls who was stopped and was found to be carrying a bottle of Whisky over her allowance. Customs wanted to confiscate it, she said NO, and did no more than walk back in the no-mans land area, sat down on the floor and proceeded to drink as much of it as she could.

Her nickname fourty or so years on is still Johnny Walker!

Love it!

Be a bugger to do with a box of cigars though

Sent from happy, clappy, tappy.