You can lead a hor.....

[Puff Scotty]

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[Drewmidorn]

Absolutely... Fun and sharing, not competition.

[smokin_e2011]

I'm having my freedom of speech, and just because some, are new members here, does not mean there less experienced with cigars.....
It's all about expressing ourselves, helping, and sharing thoughts on our experiences with cigars.....

[tippexx]

I know nuffing!

[Puff Scotty]

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[Funkilee]

Well done smokin! guess what, I said nothing about the new members on the Forum, I said "admitted newcomers to cigars," which is totally different!
I also remarked I "do try to read a thread before I blunder in.." you obviously can't be bothered.
You also seem to think this thread was just aimed at you...Sorry to piss on your pizza, but this was a general appeal to, as I said..."Gentlemen & Cocks"...it's up to you to choose your category!

A! ...you talking to me? (looks round with shifty eyes), ...you talking to me?

i said... ''YOU TALKING TO ME?'' ,

...looks round again (only looking a little meaner), ''I said", ..."YOU TALKING TO ME?", ...draws gun and looks menacing

"WELL I DON'T SEE NO ONE ELSE!"

nah...you're not talking to me I'm a chump not a cock!

[Puff Scotty]

Welcome 'chump' enjoy!

[monkey66]

I'm having my freedom of speech, and just because some, are new members here, does not mean there less experienced with cigars.....
It's all about expressing ourselves, helping, and sharing thoughts on our experiences with cigars.....

Sometimes we can all forget that this is a community of people, not just a plain txt message-board. If one is new to a community (regardless of experience) it might be prudent to get to know the people before being overly critical.

Like any community we have our rules, cultures and generally accepted behaviours.

For example one wouldn't jump into a conversation in a pub with a bunch of guys one didn't know and express strong criticism without risking some sort of response.

Plain txt is a very poor communication method and it is very easy to take offence, therefore it is always sensible to err on the side of caution with criticism (as it will always come across far worse than intended to the recipient).

A few smiley's go a long way to showing no malice is intended

Everyone was a new member once

[mrcigar]

I joined this forum in the hope of reading and contributing to interesting and light hearted discussion on cigars and all that goes with it. I'm very disappointed so far to see the kind of schoolgirl-type bickering amongst members, and some longer serving members at that.

Surely, a common interest in cigars should unite men, and provide the opportunity to be gentlemen (as opposed to cocks), where we can share our passion for the fine things in life - with decorum.

I certainly don't find the argumentative posts encouraging, rather, think it discourages people from contributing.

[L_DOG]

I agree with freedom of speech, all for it, however there is a difference between freedom of speech and being a complete d*ck. I am not trying to cause a ruccuss, I am all for debates etc etc just not snide comments.

iExplore on my Tappytalk part duex

[SmokeyDave]

It is all too easy with forum posts to over analyse and "read too much" into comments, also a lot of people take comments as personal attacks.
This isn't the fault of the poster or the reader but the medium used to convey the messages, because of that as has been said previously, caution is best.

Also when someone gives advice or talks about their experiences with cigars this will always be their opinion (unless quoted) and as such can vary/conflict with others views. This doesn't make what is said as gospel, but often it is read and taken as such.

Best suggestion to if a post "annoys", grab a cigar, spark her up and sit back

[crusse]

I think that cigar newbies have every right to join in debates, express their opinions and share whatever they might have started to learn through reading or experience. Otherwise this forum would become a closed and introverted place populated by a small group of experts. But the important point to remember is that we should express our opinions with courtesy and respect. Disagreement doesn't justify rudeness or aggression. I'm all in favour of open debate as long as it doesn't degenerate into personal attacks.

[monkey66]

I joined this forum in the hope of reading and contributing to interesting and light hearted discussion on cigars and all that goes with it. I'm very disappointed so far to see the kind of schoolgirl-type bickering amongst members, and some longer serving members at that.

Surely, a common interest in cigars should unite men, and provide the opportunity to be gentlemen (as opposed to cocks), where we can share our passion for the fine things in life - with decorum.

I certainly don't find the argumentative posts encouraging, rather, think it discourages people from contributing.

Yup, nobody likes it but it does happen in any community from time to time. This is a common occurrence on many on-line communities. Unfortunately we all like to say our piece (including me) and this often leads to continuing the negative conversation, not stopping it. We also have trolls who like joining up to cause trouble and this can cause shorter fuses than ideal, we are all human after all.

It is a hard decision on how to manage a forum, should we suppress one persons right to speak their mind because it puts off another from speaking their mind, it is a dilemma. We really try hard not to moderate unless absolutely necessary and just ask that people maintain a level of respect and understanding that plain txt is a very poor format to communicate in.

Our common interest does unite us otherwise this community would not exist. Hang around a bit you might like it

[nicwing]

Welcome Mr Cigar, the best way to encourage light hearted cigar discussions is to contribute and I look forward to your comments and thoughts here.

I joined this forum in the hope of reading and contributing to interesting and light hearted discussion on cigars and all that goes with it. I'm very disappointed so far to see the kind of schoolgirl-type bickering amongst members, and some longer serving members at that.

Surely, a common interest in cigars should unite men, and provide the opportunity to be gentlemen (as opposed to cocks), where we can share our passion for the fine things in life - with decorum.

I certainly don't find the argumentative posts encouraging, rather, think it discourages people from contributing.

[mrcigar]

Welcome Mr Cigar, the best way to encourage light hearted cigar discussions is to contribute and I look forward to your comments and thoughts here.

Thank you nicwing.