ill just leave this here

[Eddie]

I only grabbed it as it was the first source

http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/292/20/2478.short

Happier now?

[M1F2R3]

I only grabbed it as it was the first source

http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/292/20/2478.short

Happier now?

I was only joking, just having a stab at the DM.

[Drewmidorn]

A lot of these things are scaremongering. I don't know what the stats are here but in other circumstances I have seen articles that claimed that "X doubles your chances of getting Y"... and then when you read the article.... it doubles your chances from 1 in a 1000 to 2 in a 1000.

There were articles on the front page of the Daily Mail and the Sun on August 1st about the number of children with eating disorders soaring. In side they said nearly 2100 children were seen for eating disorders by doctors last year. With around 11 million children in the UK that works out at roughly 1 per 5700. Whilst this is not in anyway ideal...it also doesn't strike me as front page news.... but the headline's were (and I still have the papers here for other work related articles) The Sun "Anorexic At 5" and the Daily Mail "The Anorexia Victims Aged 5".... the bottom line in the Daily Mail? 98 children between age 5 and 7 admitted to hospital for anorexia in 3 years which in the grand scheme of things is hardly a crisis.

Now I appreciate this is a little off topic but the whole quoting stats and scaremongering means that when serious threats present themselves we are numb to them.

[T_montana]

So drew....the poster i posted was just for a reaction and by the sounds of it people just scrugg it off. instead of reading papers and watching that box in the corner we call mind controll people need to do there own research.

[Eddie]

My issue with the jab was there were more deaths from side effects in the states than there were from the flu... Now I appreciate that we didn't see a full on pandemic, but I'm sure you can see where I'm coming from. The other side to this argument is that with herd immunity there won't be a pandemic.

I'm still not too sure where I sit with regards to the jab if the shit hits the fan so to speak.

[Drewmidorn]

... the truth is my body is so battered and full of toxins that any self respecting virus wouldn't set foot in it.... it's a grubby old shell! lol

Your right though T... it's all about the facts and not the drama... and I say that as someone with a degree in drama, both figuratively and literally.

D

[Drewmidorn]

Eddie I think we should let them test all this junk on the Americans before they let it loose on real people!

Wha????

[cohibaIV]

Eddie I think we should let them test all this junk on the Americans before the let it loose on real people!

Wha????

HELL YEH!!!

And MEXICANS..!!!!


Sent by smoke signals using iCohiba from Havana

[Eddie]

Eddie I think we should let them test all this junk on the Americans before the let it loose on real people!

Wha????

Now there is a debating subject for medical ethics.

"this house believes that American's are less human than Brits therefore drug testing should be uncontrolled with regards to americans"

[Drewmidorn]

No contest!

[TJCoro]

Come On People Now...smile on your brother!

Eddie I think we should let them test all this junk on the Americans before they let it loose on real people!

Wha????

senor dreamweaver

HELL YEH!!! And MEXICANS..!!!!

senor CIV
__________________________________

Now, for your information, the familia Coro has received the shot for many years with no side effects.... well, except for Bag Boy, and maybe that stupid looking dawg smiley, el Perro, who thinks he's one of the pimps.... errrr, I mean peeps!






They call me Boy, Bag Boy, and many of mis mejores amigos are Americans!

Hey Bag Boy! A few of 'em are limeys!


Haha! Yeah, but the rest of them are latinos!

[Drewmidorn]

lol... maybe we should just limit it to the central states!

[Styler]

So drew....the poster i posted was just for a reaction and by the sounds of it people just scrugg it off. instead of reading papers and watching that box in the corner we call mind controll people need to do there own research.

The problem with people doing their own reasearch without the use of papers and the "mind control box" is that they will then turn to the internet. All the lies and half-truths in the newspapers and on the TV pale in comparison to the amount of 'tinfoil hat worthy' conspiracy nonsense and scaremongering found on the internet. Just as the tabloids bend the truth to give themselves shocking headlines and sell papers, the website owners run outrageous stories with little regard for things like facts or journalistic integrity so they can pull in as many hits as possible. It's no coincidence that the site you pull that poster from is packed full of advertisements.

Most intelligent adults will shrug off shock tactic images like that as they have no credibility. If you want a discussion on the subject you would be much better off presenting the facts as best you can, for and against, from reputable and accountable sources.

[Jacobwaits]

The problem with people doing their own reasearch without the use of papers and the "mind control box" is that they will then turn to the internet. All the lies and half-truths in the newspapers and on the TV pale in comparison to the amount of 'tinfoil hat worthy' conspiracy nonsense and scaremongering found on the internet. Just as the tabloids bend the truth to give themselves shocking headlines and sell papers, the website owners run outrageous stories with little regard for things like facts or journalistic integrity so they can pull in as many hits as possible. It's no coincidence that the site you pull that poster from is packed full of advertisements.

Most intelligent adults will shrug off shock tactic images like that as they have no credibility. If you want a discussion on the subject you would be much better off presenting the facts as best you can, for and against, from reputable and accountable sources.

Or...Someone could just pour me another drink.

[T_montana]

Or...Someone could just pour me another drink.

a drink of poison?