Ready to smoke young recommendations

[Kdot]

2009 Cohiba Siglo 4s are smoking real good imho

[Stevieboy]

2009 Cohiba Siglo 4s are smoking real good imho

If the SigloIVs you sent me are from that box then I have to agree...really, really good cigars


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[cohibaIV]

I have some from from 09 too and they smoked great

[PhilipL]

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[peanutpete]

Years ago allowing new additions to rest in one's humidor was not only necessary, it was essential. Now, once the tobacco is harvested, it is heaped and left for up to 5 or 6 months or longer. This settling process allows the ammonia and much of the nicotine to evaporate. It is because of this process that I would suggest that as long as a cigar, or box of cigars, is bought in the UK and with an official EMS stamp, there is no REAL need to allow said cigars to rest in one's humidor. It is, in fact, purely a matter of choice not necessity.

so are you saying that the cigars bought in spain, france or cuba, when on are holiday the cigars are different? and need to rest longer in ones humidor or that only the tabacco for use in cigars with the ems sticker has been left for 6months to settle before rolled?

[monkey66]

As before Trinidad and Trinidad.

There are some great general sticks smoking well from 2009, once a Cuban passes two years it will often start to come good (5 years is generally better).

[monkey66]

Years ago allowing new additions to rest in one's humidor was not only necessary, it was essential. Now, once the tobacco is harvested, it is heaped and left for up to 5 or 6 months or longer. This settling process allows the ammonia and much of the nicotine to evaporate. It is because of this process that I would suggest that as long as a cigar, or box of cigars, is bought in the UK and with an official EMS stamp, there is no REAL need to allow said cigars to rest in one's humidor. It is, in fact, purely a matter of choice not necessity.

What are you basing this info on Philip? Seems to contradict common wisdom (doesn't mean its wrong just wondering on your source). Not sure how nicotine evaporates and have sampled many young cigars with horrendous levels of ammonia (PL Regalios comes to mind).

Also 6 months is very short in the relative scope of ageing cigars. Years ago quality retailers and distributors wouldn't even put a cigar on their shelf until it had been aged for years (JJ Fox used to have a minimum of 6 years for example).

Finally ageing the tobacco in bales is not the same as the second stage of fermentation that the leaf goes through once rolled. Otherwise all aged tobacco sticks (EL's, Maduros, special humidors) would smoke great off the bat but the reality is they often need years to settle.

[monkey66]

One other question Philip, do you have an interest in selling cigars?

It is fine if you do but probably nice to say so. The reason I ask is that you have put up two posts; one singing the praises of a retail outlet and the other singing the praises of off-the-shelf cigars. Just an unusual first two posts

[whisky77]

JL and Mag 50

Smoked a Feb 2010 Mag 50 a couple of nights ago and it was very pleasant indeed, which surprised me given its age.

As I have said previously the entire Juan Lopez range has been really good over the past few years, with the 2008 crop being particularly noteworthy.

[whisky77]

Ageing.

What are you basing this info on Philip? Seems to contradict common wisdom (doesn't mean its wrong just wondering on your source). Not sure how nicotine evaporates and have sampled many young cigars with horrendous levels of ammonia (PL Regalios comes to mind).

Also 6 months is very short in the relative scope of ageing cigars. Years ago quality retailers and distributors wouldn't even put a cigar on their shelf until it had been aged for years (JJ Fox used to have a minimum of 6 years for example).

Finally ageing the tobacco in bales is not the same as the second stage of fermentation that the leaf goes through once rolled. Otherwise all aged tobacco sticks (EL's, Maduros, special humidors) would smoke great off the bat but the reality is they often need years to settle.

Have to agree regarding the ELs Monkey. I smoked the EL 2007 Escudos last night and this is the first I have smoke one of these for at least three years simply because the first ones I tried needed more time IMO.

The Escudos I smoked last night was a superb example of what the ageing process can achieve, as the cigar now has no resemblance to the same cigar when it was first released to the market.

[TJCoro]

Smoke no puro before it's time!

Umm. From my experience with Cuban and non-Cuban cigars...nothing ages better that a fine puro.

But one year (from the box date) is the minimum, in my opinion, for puros - it doesn't seem to make much difference with NCs, however.

But what the hell to I know...






Hey BB! I think you know some shit - you just don't post about it much.



(Hurumph!) "Some shit" is about all you two boobs know.

[spirit_of_will]

But what the hell to I know...






Hey BB! I think you know some shit - you just don't post about it much.



(Hurumph!) "Some shit" is about all you two boobs know.

You know a shit load more than I do TJ, hence the newbee question. Are there any particular young cigars in your collection that are smoking better than others...

[Kdot]

If the SigloIVs you sent me are from that box then I have to agree...really, really good cigars


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The very ones Stevie. A great smoke indeed.

[Smallclub]

? It is because of this process that I would suggest that as long as a cigar, or box of cigars, is bought in the UK and with an official EMS stamp, there is no REAL need to allow said cigars to rest in one's humidor.

what a joke? all the cigars having the same rest time in Cuba, please explain how the EMS stamp could make a difference?

[tippexx]

what a joke… all the cigars having the same rest time in Cuba, please explain how the EMS stamp could make a difference…

... or a Fifth Avenue sticker or Havana House ... these like the EMS sticker are only there to help further certify the Cuban authenticity of the product and as a proof by the importer that the product has cleared bond and that Duty and Excise have been paid.