Cuban consistency (or lack of)

[Adamsmokes]

This was my point about the months if not years for LE/Reserva etc. of process and selection going into what the rollers produce thats supposed to normalise some of the variation. The rollers are given select bundles and told the blend to roll. But as you're saying, there are differences!

I'm actually somewhat glad my palette is very simple as it means I dont tell the subtle diffrences

So I suppose it also comes down to a variation in how the rollers are blending, even if they are told how the blend should be. I don't think my palette is is especially refined but I can certainly taste good from bad

[Niela]

I think the problem for habanos is the limited amount of tobacco at hand. While NCs use stock that has been aged over years, they have more tobacco at hand to blend in a way that results in a specific flavour profile. The more you have to choose from,the easier it is to replicate a specific flavour I'd assume.

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[jerryr]

The beauty of a handmade product is no two are identical, that goes for cigars, fine glass and crystal, porcelain etc. So a box will all have a similar appearance but not identical. My only real winge with the variance between cigars in a box is how do the tightly rolled and plugged ones get through quality control. With regards to flavour I find Cohiba have a distinct flavour across the vitolas as do Upmann, and I can definitely identify the marks I’m not fond of.


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[JamesE90]

I hadn't had a poorly constructed cuban cigar in honestly about 50 and I was sure that it was a thing of the past. I was even starting to get annoyed watching Cigar Obsession on Youtube as he always moans about the construction.

Alas, on Sunday I picked up a Monte 4 and it was plugged - they're definitely better than when I started smoking about 10 years ago though.

[mcdee]

I've found that underfilled cigars seem to be more of a problem recently. Had a short churchill and a RASS that both had that issue in the last few months.

[Romeo Allones]

Generally I've had few draw issues this year, only thrice have I had to use the PerfecDraw and they were on CCs, no NCs had this issue. Burn is also generally better on the NCs.

[simwells]

I've found that underfilled cigars seem to be more of a problem recently. Had a short churchill and a RASS that both had that issue in the last few months.

I’ve seen a lot more under filled cigars than tight from the last few years too. Not sure if it’s on purpose to save money or due to demand for a looser draw from NC smokers but I’m definitely not seeing plugged or over filled cigars out of Cuba more recently


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[Adamsmokes]

I've found that underfilled cigars seem to be more of a problem recently. Had a short churchill and a RASS that both had that issue in the last few months.

I can usually get on with an underfilled cigar, much easier than a plugged one. I agree that it's more common to find them underfilled than over. I smoke raining smaller RG and even with these vitola I find this is the case

[Adamsmokes]

Generally I've had few draw issues this year, only thrice have I had to use the PerfecDraw and they were on CCs, no NCs had this issue. Burn is also generally better on the NCs.

I would still take a poorly constructed CC over most NC. That said my experience of NCs is fairly limited

[Romeo Allones]

I would still take a poorly constructed CC over most NC. That said my experience of NCs is fairly limited

Burn is not so much of an issue for me, but a very difficult draw ruins the whole thing, and certainly the relaxing aspect of a cigar. So for times when I just want to chill then a NC is a safe bet, key is to get the ones that you also like the flavours of.

[simwells]

I would still take a poorly constructed CC over most NC. That said my experience of NCs is fairly limited

You definitely should try more then! It's a shame for anyone to limit themselves to one or the other both offer different things that it would be a shame not to give chance.

I'm not with you on getting through an underfilled cigar though I pretty well always toss them as having to smoke it too hot to keep it lit just isn't worth the taste. Plugged can generally be easily fixed at least.

[Adamsmokes]

You definitely should try more then! It's a shame for anyone to limit themselves to one or the other both offer different things that it would be a shame not to give chance.

I'm not with you on getting through an underfilled cigar though I pretty well always toss them as having to smoke it too hot to keep it lit just isn't worth the taste. Plugged can generally be easily fixed at least.

I definitely need to smoke more NCs... trouble is I find the array of brands and vitolas a bit off putting. The paradox of choice! I've spent a fair amount of time learning what I like in a CC and I guess I'm too comfortable with my tried and tested smokes now

[simwells]

I definitely need to smoke more NCs... trouble is I find the array of brands and vitolas a bit off putting. The paradox of choice! I've spent a fair amount of time learning what I like in a CC and I guess I'm too comfortable with my tried and tested smokes now

It is a minefield and some of my worst smokes have been NCs but there's some I absolutely love too. The more I smoke them the more I find myself drawn that way, there's something about an oily San Andreas wrapper particularly that CCs just can't emulate

[Niela]

I definitely need to smoke more NCs... trouble is I find the array of brands and vitolas a bit off putting. The paradox of choice! I've spent a fair amount of time learning what I like in a CC and I guess I'm too comfortable with my tried and tested smokes now

See it that way, you still have a whole new world of flavours to discover! Exciting first experiences. I'm also a firm believer that sampling more flavours trains one's taste. Meaning, the more different cigars you try, even the ones you don't like, train your perception. Thus you'll not only find new cigars to enjoy, but you'll also enjoy your CCs a lot more.

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[Adamsmokes]

This thread has shamed me into buying a box of Padrons... just the 2000 range, nothing too pricy. I've had one before but it was pretty early in my cigar journey so I wasn't really equipped to make a fair assessment of it.