Well said. I agree with you on the education front, for I too feel my palette is no where near as good as many of the members here. I certainly enjoy living through the cigar experiences of others on this forum!
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Originally posted by El Catador View PostFor example, the difference between ?25 bottle of (non-vintage) Moet and a ?100 bottle of (vintage) Dom Perignon (both made by Moet in the same cellars in Epernay) is not as pronounced as the price would suggest. You certainly don't get a wine that is 4 times superior.
I'm enjoying the learning process though, but sometimes wish I'd found a cheaper hobby to get obsessive about, perhaps not collecting watches though (how much???).
Just starting to get in to watches just now. Recently acquired an Omega De Ville in 18ct from about 1969 with I believe the Cal. 563 movement. No way to confirm this until I get it off to STS for a service, it's a unishell type case. Also got my eye on a C cased constellation in stainless steel with Cal. 751, it's had a recent service, but is on a non-original strap. I know where to get the extra long Omega straps from at a reasonable price, so that isn't a problem. A bit more difficult if I want the metal bracelet, 1040/518 brickwork type.
The other watch I have my eye on is an Omega Dynamic Chrono 5240.50.00 with Cal. 1138 from 2001. It's up for sale at ?600, a reasonable price.
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Several of us appear to have similar tastes!
I have stashes of NV (Pol Roger, Louis Roederer, Veuve Clicquot,Veuve Clicquot demi sex, Tattinger, etc), a selection of vintages ('85 Krug, 2000 Dom Perion, few others), I used to be a booze collector. I still have insane amount of ultra premium gins, vodkas, scotch and numerous other spirits. Most of my wine has been "worked" through but I still keep a stash of fizz and my real passion, port.
On the watches I stopped after two. I got the Breitling Navitimer I always wanted when they did a brushed model (polished is overly showy for me) and an SS Rolex Daytona. I kept looking at Omega but lost the love as soon as I actually picked them up. Bell & Ross look fun, but just that, fun, nothing more. Very tempted by a Bremont but lacks any history so far. Thought about a Tag Monaco but again, the pictures are better than the reality. A few others I keep my eye open for, a Breitling Twin-Sixty (version 1) is of a certain yearning. A few of the IWC look interesting. The problem is, I can never bring myself to take them out the winding box and put them on when I head to town. Might get stolen or I might get drunk. A friend had his Rolex stolen when he got raped, not a great advert."In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love, they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock!"
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Well ...if we are playing.
I have a 9 carat pink diamond on the end of my platinum Prince Albert. It was made from a sceptre that used to belong to the old Prince himself!
now...
As already said we all have perceived price points of acceptability (which tend to shift with time and alcohol) relative to the law of diminishing returns. This dictates how much we spend for any one stick.
I think it is probably safe to say that for the average enthusiast there is not much enjoyment difference between a nice aged classic (5-10 years Lusitania / Sig IV / Monte 2 / BBF etc) or a modern great (RA Phonecios, Monte Sublime etc) costing ?30ish and a high-end modern costing ?80.
For the committed enthusiast/addict (always chasing that first high) the thrill of the spend, rarity of the item and the exclusivity of the experience will all add to the justification of the spend.
Ultimately ?100 a stick smokes are not intended for the every-day enthusiast but to optimise the spend of the high net worth cigar smoking community.
Those of us who dabble in such frivolous luxuries should be condemned and applauded in equal quantities ...passion can never be truly quantifiedOriginally posted by Simon BolivarLittle medical correction there Steve, you will surely die...but not from smoking these
Originally posted by RyanI think that's for lighting electronic cigarettes
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Anybody who knows me knows I don't currently have two brass farthings to rub together, this was acquired when working for a company as part of the stock exchange, some years ago."In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed, but they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love, they had 500 years of democracy and peace, and what did that produce? The cuckoo clock!"
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I may have to report you to the BBI (British Bureau of Investigation). I read somewhere that that particular item was reported lost, presumed stolen right after the Crystal Palace fire.
Originally posted by monkey66 View PostWell ...if we are playing.
I have a 9 carat pink diamond on the end of my platinum Prince Albert. It was made from a sceptre that used to belong to the old Prince himself!
now...
As already said we all have perceived price points of acceptability (which tend to shift with time and alcohol) relative to the law of diminishing returns. This dictates how much we spend for any one stick.
I think it is probably safe to say that for the average enthusiast there is not much enjoyment difference between a nice aged classic (5-10 years Lusitania / Sig IV / Monte 2 / BBF etc) or a modern great (RA Phonecios, Monte Sublime etc) costing ?30ish and a high-end modern costing ?80.
For the committed enthusiast/addict (always chasing that first high) the thrill of the spend, rarity of the item and the exclusivity of the experience will all add to the justification of the spend.
Ultimately ?100 a stick smokes are not intended for the every-day enthusiast but to optimise the spend of the high net worth cigar smoking community.
Those of us who dabble in such frivolous luxuries should be condemned and applauded in equal quantities ...passion can never be truly quantified
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Personally, I'm with Andy on this one. I've smoked some very valuable cigars in the past, but they were given to me, not bought. In a way, apart from the celebratory feeling of smoking something like that, I always felt a little disapointed as I expected far more...not because they were no good, quite the contrary. I'm also convinced that my taste buds are simply not good enough to really appreciate the nuances that may justify the cost difference. I'd rather buy a few than a single, especially as if I ever have only one stick of a cigar, I am always loathed to smoke it
But I certainly wouldn't knock anyone if they have the money to buy them. Each to his own. Remember that most hamlett smokers think we are nuts for paying what we do for a for even the cheapest Cuban It's all relative, we smoke what makes us happiest
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