Hand made?

[wingman01]

After receiving some Cohiba Siglo 3's froma unconfirmed source I noticed that the cigars have a straight line running down the side of the cigar in 2 spots like it was machine made... I am not a true AFICIONADO. so I was hoping someone can tell me if there is a sure way to see if it was hand rolled or machine made?

[HabanoSy]

Is it possible to post up some pics wingman...?

Cheers, HabanoSy

[wingman01]

Is it possible to post up some pics wingman...?

Cheers, HabanoSy

I will post some pictures when later when I get home from work. Decided to light one and got about a third of it smoked and decided to toss it. Luckily only bought a box of 5.

[monkey66]

Pictures please (cigars, packaging, bands etc).

[wingman01]

Okay here ar some pictures, trying to point out poor job on bands, crease down side of stick,etc. Not showing packaging because as far as I can tell the packaging is legit. Seal has UV mark proper box,etc. Look close at thefirst picture as I drew 2 tiny arrow to point out line that I believe is showing it was machine made. Look at how the band looks tamperedith

[wingman01]

Sorry, the arrows are small in the first picture but they are there

[El Greco]

They look like Cohibas. The bands are ok.
The line you refer to is not a result of "machine made" but rather produced because of the wooden press in some cases.

Rolling is not the best I've dealt with. Cohiba workers are humans and mistakes are likely to happen. BTW not all of them are the best rollers in Cuba. Remember that cigars are hand made and as such they are ALL different from one another.

Unfortunately cuban cigars are not perfect.

Enjoy them.

[jdawg]

I will post some pictures when later when I get home from work. Decided to light one and got about a third of it smoked and decided to toss it. Luckily only bought a box of 5.

Well, smoking one is the best test to determine whether they are legit or not. It seems they have failed that test.

What was wrong with it when you smoked it?

[El Catador]

They look like Cohibas. The bands are ok.

I'm not sure I'd necessarily agree with that.
On first glace the bands seemed OK to me too, however, the font 'Habana, Cuba' looks a little 'heavy' in comparison to the majority of genuine Cohibas I've encountered, but ... that by itself isn't necessarily conclusive of much.
The 'odd' aspect about these cigars (to me anyhow) is the overlapping of the band at the back. i.e. on the middle cigar, it wraps all the way round the width and encroaches on part of the central 'Cohiba' logo*.

If I were you I'd be tempted to sacrifice this one to the 'blade', run a knife along the length and open it up.
I suspect your going to find its filled with shredded tobacco. I may be wrong (it happens ..occasionally), but the look of it raises enough doubts to risk sacrificing it. Post up a picture of the innards if you do go down this route, as it's a useful piece of evidence for us all.

Sorry a) if I'm wrong, or b) if I'm not (nobody likes getting taken), if it's any consolation, and it probably isn't, but sooner or later it happens to all of us.

Regards
El Cat
P.S. Even if they don't turn out as the real thing, doesn't mean to say you can't enjoy 'em. Sometimes theyre pretty reasonable.
P.P.S. Don't mix them with your other cigars, they're almost certainly untreated for the dreaded 'evil weevil' and not worth risking an infection for.

EDIT: *It's been a while since I last had a Siglo 3, so maybe the bands do wrap around that far on this vitola. Can't remember for sure, but thought they used slightly smaller ones (these look more like 'Eplendido sized').
But, if anyone who has one in their humi might be able to chime in and confirm it, I'd be most grateful.

[tippexx]

[QUOTE=El Catador;66050]
The 'odd' aspect about these cigars (to me anyhow) is the overlapping of the band at the back. i.e. on the middle cigar, it wraps all the way round the width and encroaches on part of the central 'Cohiba' logo*.

I agree, in fact the bands appear to be different lengths with one in particular overlapping far more than others. I've looked at my Siglos and the overlaps are not wrapped round to that extent. Also, all my bands are dead aligned and squared, which given the premium of cost these cigars is no more than might be expected.

I'm not sure if I'd want to dissect the cigars though .... better just to smoke them .... but deep-freeze first as a beetle precaution.

[joeray]

I am no expert, and I might be wrong, but the bands don't look legit to me.

I agree with El Catador that the lettering is too thick and the overlapping band is not right.

[rollzst]

They don't look that legit to me either for the reasons other people have said. I think the best think to do would be to cut one open and post pics up for us to judge.

[Kdot]

as said before the bands look suspect, it also appears that the distance between the gold line and the white dots is not consistant. on two of the cigars it looks like there is no space between the white dots and gold...

[monkey66]

Some pics of the packaging will help as well.

[wingman01]

I will indeed cut one open and take some pictures. The one I smoked seemed very stiff and tightlypacked. It had a very hard draw and was not very pleasant to smoke. Ended up tossing it about a third of the way done. Iknow I did the obvious mistake of trying it first day of receiving it. I didn't think that wouldmake it horrible though. Will post pictures after cutting one open.
Superbowl time fornow though!
Thanks for the replies.






[QUOTE=tippexx;66055]

The 'odd' aspect about these cigars (to me anyhow) is the overlapping of the band at the back. i.e. on the middle cigar, it wraps all the way round the width and encroaches on part of the central 'Cohiba' logo*.

I agree, in fact the bands appear to be different lengths with one in particular overlapping far more than others. I've looked at my Siglos and the overlaps are not wrapped round to that extent. Also, all my bands are dead aligned and squared, which given the premium of cost these cigars is no more than might be expected.

I'm not sure if I'd want to dissect the cigars though .... better just to smoke them .... but deep-freeze first as a beetle precaution.