Just got my counterfeit cubans!

[kingcohiba]

Just thought naming and shaming was frowned upon. Didn't want to jump to conclusions.

Does anyone think the wrapper colour being different is odd?

not really. are they very close to the same in color to the other sticks in the box? especially the top layer?

[whisky77]

Surprised.

Okay, not saying that they are fake. I have no idea. I just thought they seemed odd from every other d4 I saw. I got them from topcubans. There. Mystery over. lol.

Very surprised at that TBO.

[cigarssogood]

That's the thing. They are very uniform in colour...just noticeably lighter than the other boxes of d4's I have. Whatever they are, they are have the same wrappers, just not that normal, dark chocolate colour I have come to recognize the d4s for.

[cigarssogood]

That's the thing. They are very uniform in colour...just noticeably lighter than the other boxes of d4's I have. Whatever they are, they are have the same wrappers, just not that normal, dark chocolate colour I have come to recognize the d4s for.

[Deano]

Probably should just ask for a swap if you're not satisfied, they're a good legit company

[tippexx]

Let's hope that works. TC source from InterTabak AG, Habanos S.A. Importer for Cuban cigars into Switzerland, who on this showing don't appear to be doing a very good check and inspection job. I can't imagin cigars looking like that getting past Hunters and Frankau or any of our retailers.

[Deano]

Can always send one to me. If it's legit, I'll send you one back.

[cigarssogood]

Let's hope that works. TC source from InterTabak AG, Habanos S.A. Importer for Cuban cigars into Switzerland, who on this showing don't appear to be doing a very good check and inspection job. I can't imagin cigars looking like that getting past Hunters and Frankau or any of our retailers.

So you agree the cigars look a bit dodgy?

[tippexx]

Cigarsogood you mean. I checked my D4s yesterday, I've only a three TUBOS pack and they were fine. And from Richard.

[daverave999]

If I said they smoke great, I meant the draw was good, sorry. They taste ALRIGHT, not amazing.

They will have likely been through serious temperature changes if they've come airmail. Sometimes they smoke great out of the box but I've often found that three months rest sorts out taste and burn issues.

[EDIT] By they, I mean cigars in general. I'm not up on D4s I'm afraid.

[cigarssogood]

The two things that most concerned me were the bands and the colour of the wrappers. Aren't cigars as popular as partagas supposed to have wrappers that are consistent in colour from box to box? Meaning they use the same type of tobacco for the wrapper? I assumed so, but am a relative noobie to cigars, only owning 10 boxes or so, and as such, am not immune to naivete.

[tippexx]

Well, it would be nice to think that for around ?120 for a 25 box there ought to be a quality control system in operation somewhere.

[Luis]

"Aren't cigars as popular as partagas supposed to have wrappers that are consistent in colour from box to box?"

I don't think so, actually it seems cubans are looking more for consistency of colours within one box than within one vitola.

[Deano]

Yeh. It's exactly what they do - sort them into colours for each individual box. Colours can range massively from box to box due to this.

[cj121]

And traditionally Cuban cigars are graded for colour within the box going from light to dark (v.marginal differences here, you understand) if memory serves me right. In more recent times, this aspect might have gone by the wayside.

EDIT: To clarify the above,

"a second Escogedor then sorts the cigars within each shade, one box-full at a time, ordering them so that any slight differences in tone run dark to light from left to right across the box"
(Cultivating a tradition of perfection:an enthusiasts guide to Habanos. Habanos SA, 2002: pg 39) even got a quote in there for the fussy