Beetles... HELP!

[kern47]

Yeah you've all made valid points.

My only concern now is that these were due to be shared with my father and uncle on Christmas. Both non smokers. So thought they'd be cigars they could get on with.

Would they have enough time to recover from the freezing in the month and a half until then?

Also, what sort of temperature should they be frozen at? I can control my freezer temperature, so presumably the colder the better?

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[simwells]

This may help, times listed are how long the cigars are physically at that temperature for so they need to have reached that temperature not just in that temperature for that long

[ha_banos]

My freezer reads -20 and I had cigars in there for 3 days. #notafraid

Also MLW dropped the frozen pack of cigars from the freezer at one point, but luckily they were ok!

Also didn't bother with the fridge part of the process, and all seems good.

[PeeJay]

They'll be fine to smoke as soon as they've thawed out, Christmas is weeks away! (Thank God)

[Moley]

Wouldn't putting your humidor in a cold place over the coming colder months stop these hatching. How long will an agg survive for?

[kern47]

This may help, times listed are how long the cigars are physically at that temperature for so they need to have reached that temperature not just in that temperature for that long

That's a very useful chart! Thanks [emoji106]

So probably a day in the freezer if I can get mine down to -20 then. Can't see the middle of the cigars holding their temperature for too long.

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[kern47]

Wouldn't putting your humidor in a cold place over the coming colder months stop these hatching. How long will an agg survive for?

Going by that chart, it depends how long and how cold. And at colder temperatures for long periods of time, I imagine you'd be struggling to keep the right humidity (70% RH at 5? is a lot dryer than 70% RH at 18?). So a short stint in the freezer is probably the better option.

They shouldn't hatch over winter, but come the summer time when temperatures and humidity can rise in your house, that's when it could be getting close.

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[Moley]

Going by that chart, it depends how long and how cold. And at colder temperatures for long periods of time, I imagine you'd be struggling to keep the right humidity (70% RH at 5? is a lot dryer than 70% RH at 18?). So a short stint in the freezer is probably the better option.

They shouldn't hatch over winter, but come the summer time when temperatures and humidity can rise in your house, that's when it could be getting close.

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Surely eggs dont lay dormant for years do they? If so better get some freezing done lol

[ha_banos]

Going by that chart, it depends how long and how cold. And at colder temperatures for long periods of time, I imagine you'd be struggling to keep the right humidity (70% RH at 5? is a lot dryer than 70% RH at 18?). So a short stint in the freezer is probably the better option.

They shouldn't hatch over winter, but come the summer time when temperatures and humidity can rise in your house, that's when it could be getting close.

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For a sealed unit as the temperature drops, the rh will change. It will rise. As the amount of moisture suspended in the air is the same but at lower temperatures the air doesn't hold as much moisture? Although at these freezing temperatures, the water will freeze, so that takes all the moisture out of the little air? So it does have the net effect of drying out. But now it's a different ballgame at these temperatures? :idk:

[peanutpete]

If you're going to take them out of the tubes before frezzing then make sure you clean the tubes as well just in case any little fuckers in there,but i believe if you had any live beetles your cigars would have been dust

[Kickback]

Surprised that the laval stage survives longer at those temps than the egg stage.
A couple of weeks in the freezer should see anything off.

[Simon Bolivar]

Cling film ... lots of cling film.

leave them in the freezer for a touch longer you want these sticks frozen solid.so as @PeeJay said but maybe 3-5 days on hard ice to be sure. Thing is they were probably frozen in cuba, and they were probably stored correctly in switzerland and probably ok as they are tubos.... but who knows it may have been picked up en route in storage facility when inspected, or dare i say in your own storage... you?ll never know. Too late to seek recompense from the vendor?

freeze these any any that have shared common storage for utter peace of mind. We have all frozen cigars without issue. Some have forgotten them in a freezer for weeks ( @Simon Bolivar !!) to no ill effects.

very best of luck

Ha, guilty as charged! Wasn't planned to be so long but after our last trip to Havana, I froze all the stock I brought back but left one bag inside when I removed the rest. They survived 6months & after time in the fride & humi' they smoked & tasdted just fine.
I personally use the 2/3/2 fridge/freezer/fridge & it works for me.

[Kickback]

2/3/2 - days weeks or months?