Intertabac 2018 pics of upcoming releases

[K444HEP]

Trinidad Shorts... interesting...

[Alexw33]

Like the MdO No.2 which has never been discontinued? I sadly don't think so since HSA seem to have moved on to another market. Large RG cigars are they new trend.

And the des Dieux never really sold until there was talk in 2015 that there had been no new production since 2013 and that it was probably going to be discontinued. It was only the that the des Dieux started to fly off shelves.

Maybe that’s the strategy to improve sales, nothing helps quite like the threat of deletion.

Theres already loads of large ring gauge cigars, surely bringing more out just moves sales from one to the other rather than generating extra sales.

[gojira]

Maybe that’s the strategy to improve sales, nothing helps quite like the threat of deletion.

Theres already loads of large ring gauge cigars, surely bringing more out just moves sales from one to the other rather than generating extra sales.

I agree with you but I have never seen a 2014 or later box of the des Dieux. If I'm right about this that's almost 5 years.

Almost all new releases are fat now. Look at the new Hoyo de Seco. 56 RG. It's a miracle that the new LCDH Hoyo is a 49 x 180 cigar. Especially since the new trend seems to be to delete DC's and other long cigars. But the LCDH releases are IMO aimed at a certain sort of cigar smoker and to give LCDHs something only they can sell to keep the owners happy (I believe that they have to pay to be an LCDH). And box runs are much lower for all the LCDH releases.

I frequently chat with the owner of the store I go to and they move a ton of boxes. Everytime I bitch about those large RG releases (but I buy them anyways, go figure) he tells me that small RG cigars just don't sell anymore. All those deleted cigars that we love so much, nobody cares about them apart from us. But we are just a few hundred or maybe a couple of thousand guys who chat on various forums. We are nothing to HSA. When I go to the lounge in Germany I see 40 guys in suits sitting in there and they all have a 54 RG cigar in their hand. That's the main source of HSAs revenue these days.

[Shaun]

I agree with you but I have never seen a 2014 or later box of the des Dieux. If I'm right about this that's almost 5 years.

Almost all new releases are fat now. Look at the new Hoyo de Seco. 56 RG. It's a miracle that the new LCDH Hoyo is a 49 x 180 cigar. Especially since the new trend seems to be to delete DC's and other long cigars. But the LCDH releases are IMO aimed at a certain sort of cigar smoker and to give LCDHs something only they can sell to keep the owners happy (I believe that they have to pay to be an LCDH). And box runs are much lower for all the LCDH releases.

I frequently chat with the owner of the store I go to and they move a ton of boxes. Everytime I bitch about those large RG releases (but I buy them anyways, go figure) he tells me that small RG cigars just don't sell anymore. All those deleted cigars that we love so much, nobody cares about them apart from us. But we are just a few hundred or maybe a couple of thousand guys who chat on various forums. We are nothing to HSA. When I go to the lounge in Germany I see 40 guys in suits sitting in there and they all have a 54 RG cigar in their hand. That's the main source of HSAs revenue these days.

We are the equivalent of cigar dinosaurs. Soon to be extinct.

[Alexw33]

We are the equivalent of cigar dinosaurs. Soon to be extinct.

I’m of the view that taste and fashions go in cycles. In 10-20 years time we might be complaining about HSA’s catalogue of long panatellas with not even a Robusto in sight.

Either that it the current trend will continue and we’ll all need facial surgery just to smoke the smalles 80RG cigars.

[gojira]

I’m of the view that taste and fashions go in cycles. In 10-20 years time we might be complaining about HSA’s catalogue of long panatellas with not even a Robusto in sight.

Either that it the current trend will continue and we’ll all need facial surgery just to smoke the smalles 80RG cigars.

LOL!

If we continue like this Alex we won't need to purchase any cigars in 10-20 years because we will be sitting on hundreds of boxes by then.

[potpest]

LOL!

If we continue like this Alex we won't need to purchase any cigars in 10-20 years because we will be sitting on hundreds of boxes by then.

Hundreds; im sure that will still not be enough.

[gojira]

Hundreds; im sure that will still not be enough.

Ha ha, we need to stop at some point.

[Simon Bolivar]

Thanks for sharing Mike. It's well known I fav long & skinny & although I smoke the occasional larger smoke, prefer piramide shapes than jaw breakers. As for trends, I agree, the way things are going 80% of future production is likely to be 46RG & above, the Petit Corona/ Marvela I think will continue at 42 but it could be that limited. However on the bright side, there will be enough old stock & re-sales around for us to still be smoking them in 10-15yrs, it's the next generation of smokers who will wonder how we were ever satisfied by smokes of 28-44RG; much as we would think of the 1920-30's when 4" double figarados were so popular.

[SHAMZ84]

Is this habanos first EL in this format?...never seen these before

[gojira]

Is this habanos first EL in this format?...never seen these before

I believe that there was a limited edition of Cohiba White (or something like that) but I don't really know anything about cigarillos, lol.

[SHAMZ84]

I believe that there was a limited edition of Cohiba White (or something like that) but I don't really know anything about cigarillos, lol.

Interesting....maybe just away to sell more

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[gojira]

Interesting....maybe just away to sell more

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Probably.