Cuban cigar quality experiencing a downturn

[Shaun]

Rob over on FOH just posted a review up of his experiences so far this year and it doesnt make good reading. Now whether you follow him or not, or like his grading system he sees more cigars than most people so can gauge whats happening better than most.

http://www.friendsofhabanos.com/forum/topic/130550-first-quarter-2017-wrap-up/

[Alexw33]

Very worrying indeed, hopefully the bumper harvest that has recently been reported will result in an improvement in quality next year. Do you think a general lack of tobacco (and quality leaf in respect of the wrappers) is leading to the poor output? I also imagine the expected increase in demand due to the US market is doing little to help as quantity takes priority over quality.

[TonyN]

Like alex said very worrying .

[SHAMZ84]

O wow....The underfilling is very worrying...So if you do buy a box like that? Would vendors take them.back?

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[PeeJay]

Thanks for sharing that Shaun, I thought it worthwhile grabbing his photos to show people on here what he means by underfilling

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[Shaun]

O wow....The underfilling is very worrying...So if you do buy a box like that? Would vendors take them.back?

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Depends on the vendor, UK ones should but then again who can afford a wide churchill at ?21 anyway.

[Greg]

I personally have not had this problem buying to normal cavas in Spain or any other official store in Europe.. May be the paralell market is going "underfilled" by itself.....

[thedame007]

Really interesting and terrifying read all round, backed up with some really obscene images

[SHAMZ84]

I personally have not had this problem buying to normal cavas in Spain or any other official store in Europe.. May be the paralell market is going "underfilled" by itself.....

On the post it did say early 2017 boxes....Maybe we haven't had these come through to the shops yet...Only assuming though

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[Simon Bolivar]

Thanks for sharing that Shaun, I thought it worthwhile grabbing his photos to show people on here what he means by underfilling

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[sheppsea]

Cuban cigar quality experiencing a downturn

Haven't there been bad harvests for a couple of years in a row? That may explain it

I also find that FOH are a bit enthusiastic/OTT (for want of better words) about things sometimes, which I am by no means knocking as I appreciate enthusiasm,and although I haven't posted for a while now I do enjoy the forum, I just sometimes take things they say with a pinch of salt, for example, the way they talk about box codes

[Shaun]

Haven't there been bad harvests for a couple of years in a row? That may explain it

I also find that FOH are a bit enthusiastic/OTT (for want of better words) about things sometimes, which I am by no means knocking as I appreciate enthusiasm,and although I haven't posted for a while now I do enjoy the forum, I just sometimes take things they say with a pinch of salt, for example, the way they talk about box codes

Yes they are OTT, especially when reviewing cigars, I often chuckle at those. But its a good source of information, I guess its no surprise, lack of quality tobacco and increased demand is a recipe for quality to nose dive.