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  • Cuban cigars are overrated say experts!

    Just been reading this online and thought I might put it up!





    Real Cigar Aficionados Know Cubans Aren't A Big Deal Anymore

    While every minor cigar fan is hooting and hollering about the possible return of Cuban cigars to the US, real cigar experts know the truth: There really isn't all that much to cheer about.

    According to Michael Herklots, vice president for retail and brand development for Nat Sherman cigar brand, Cubans are not the greatest in the world anymore.

    Too many fantastic cigars have cropped up from other countries around the world, including Honduras, Dominican Republic, and Nicaragua ? places Cigar experts flocked to after the US embargoed Cuban exports.

    The cigars from these countries are just as good ? or even much better ? than Cubans, and they've always been available in American markets.
    Even industry publications have picked up on this trend. The Washington Post notes that only 3 of the top 25 cigars in the world, as ranked by Cigar Aficionado, were Cubans.

    And in the quality control department, Cubans fare even worse. There is a high chance of a few cigars in a Cuban box being "total dogs," according to Herklots. They don't draw properly, are rolled too tightly, or are otherwise made without the care of an artisan craftsman.

    "There is certainly a risk in investing in a Cuban product, because you are not guaranteed the best," Herklots says. He hypothesizes that it may be the state ownership of cigar manufacturing and lack of entrepreneurship in Cuba that may be to blame for this quality control problem.

    Cuban cigars aren't highly regarded in countries apart from the US, where they've always been available. In fact, in places like Europe, the Middle East and Asia, Cubans are the most common cigar around. It's merely their rarity in the US that excites the US cigar smoker, says Herklots.

    "In every hobby, we always want the thing that is hardest to get," Herklots says, noting that the same scarcity phenomenon occurs with small-scale American brands in European countries where they're hard to find.

    Cuba's reputation for great cigars isn't unearned, of course. They were a pioneer in cigar manufacturing very early on and, for a long time, Cuban cigars were the undisputed best in the world.

    Still, if you really must have the taste of a Cuban-made cigar with 100% Cuban tobacco, there's only one place to get it: Cuba.







    what say you?
    www.buypurple.com

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    Sounds like his bums twitching. Typical marketing crap to be expected from an NC manufacturer worried about stock prices and investor returns.

    P.S Whats he mean by that last line? You can buy Cuban made 100% Cuban tobacco cigars in plenty of places outside Cuba...... As he alludes to himself earlier where he points out that they are common place in Europe, Middle East and Asia.
    Licky Licky before Sticky Sticky. - Puff Scotty 22/03/14

    Originally posted by PeeJay
    I get longing looks from guys walking past

    Originally posted by butternutsquashpie
    A purge follows a rapid puffing session.

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    • #3
      NCs might have more credibility if they dated their boxes
      'Cigars are a hobby, cigarettes an addiction'

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      • #4
        Summary: "Cuban cigars suck, says Non-Cuban cigar manufacturer".

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        • #5
          Originally posted by PeeJay View Post
          NCs might have more credibility if they dated their boxes
          Why? They do everything possible to make them all the same.

          CC's overall are a more natural representation of a true organic product, different shapes and sizes and tastes..... IMO that's part of the appeal and why some sort of refference date is useful.

          The NC industry and many consumers don't get this and they will continue to consume their (Identical Waxed Apple) NC's in large numbers. There is something terribly mechanical and man made about most NC's I see.
          A date would be pointless and a marketing stunt like putting born on dates on a bottle of Bud.
          Licky Licky before Sticky Sticky. - Puff Scotty 22/03/14

          Originally posted by PeeJay
          I get longing looks from guys walking past

          Originally posted by butternutsquashpie
          A purge follows a rapid puffing session.

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          • #6
            I'm sure you're just winding me up Marc but there are a large number of boutique brands out there that are a break from the norm and unless you buy something like the Mysterios I bought from the DR you have no idea of how old they are and whether they do actually improve or deteriorate with age beyond your own records.
            'Cigars are a hobby, cigarettes an addiction'

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            • #7
              I think you are going to see a lot of this from the Premium end of the NC market in the USA. They have a huge amount invested in their production and brands.

              Low price cigars aren't going to be impacted by the arrival of Cuban cigars in the US because the price of Cuban cigars will always be, relatively, very high. However, those guys at the top of the market are going to get squeezed and this looks like "getting his retaliation in early"
              Nic
              Editor UK Cigar Scene Magazine

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              • #8
                Originally posted by PeeJay View Post
                I'm sure you're just winding me up Marc but there are a large number of boutique brands out there that are a break from the norm and unless you buy something like the Mysterios I bought from the DR you have no idea of how old they are and whether they do actually improve or deteriorate with age beyond your own records.
                Im not on the wind up. I'm massively generalising, because the NC world is so big it's hard not to..... But in general I don't think that the majority of rank and file GM NC's would benefit from anything more than another extra shiny band or "limited edition" box, to ramp sales up.

                While we're touching on the more boutique NC's though, are you aware of any that are produced in the traditional Cuban way..... I.E without pre aged and prepared tobacco? Now that's something I would like to try and I think would be a good direct comparison.
                Licky Licky before Sticky Sticky. - Puff Scotty 22/03/14

                Originally posted by PeeJay
                I get longing looks from guys walking past

                Originally posted by butternutsquashpie
                A purge follows a rapid puffing session.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Deano View Post
                  Summary: "Cuban cigars suck, says Non-Cuban cigar manufacturer".
                  This- all of this
                  ?Some humans would do anything to see if it was possible to do it. If you put a large switch in some cave somewhere, with a sign on it saying 'End-of-the-World Switch. PLEASE DO NOT TOUCH', the paint wouldn't even have time to dry.?
                  Terry Pratchett

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Deano View Post
                    Summary: "Cuban cigars suck, says Non-Cuban cigar manufacturer".
                    +1 lol

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Deano View Post
                      Summary: "Cuban cigars suck, says Non-Cuban cigar manufacturer".
                      Yup ... Could not say it any better .

                      derrek
                      tourists bring home souvenirs ... explorers bring home stories .

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                      • #12
                        Cuban cigars are overrated say experts!

                        Yeah this sounds like American propaganda, big tobacco companies trying to preempt the return of the Cuban cigar to the U.S. I personally couldn't give a fifth of a shit if Americans don't buy Cubans, more for us and less chance of quality taking a nosedive to try and keep up with demand.

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                        • #13
                          As said we are going to see a lot more of this. With the possibility of the Cuban embargo being lifted in the US the very powerful NC industry PR machine is just gearing up. This will be a big, dirty battle that will last years.
                          The good news is just smoke what you like and enjoy the show

                          BTW - shame on CA for publishing such a silly article.
                          Originally posted by Simon Bolivar
                          Little medical correction there Steve, you will surely die...but not from smoking these

                          Originally posted by Ryan
                          I think that's for lighting electronic cigarettes

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by monkey66 View Post
                            BTW - shame on CA for publishing such a silly article.
                            I would hazard to guess that Nat Sherman are an influential and payng customer of theirs.
                            Licky Licky before Sticky Sticky. - Puff Scotty 22/03/14

                            Originally posted by PeeJay
                            I get longing looks from guys walking past

                            Originally posted by butternutsquashpie
                            A purge follows a rapid puffing session.

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                            • #15
                              The Winds of Change!

                              Originally posted by monkey66 View Post
                              As said we are going to see a lot more of this. With the possibility of the Cuban embargo being lifted in the US the very powerful NC industry PR machine is just gearing up. This will be a big, dirty battle that will last years.
                              Agreed! Appears someone is getting ready for the lifting of the embargo....coming soon to a yankee doodle dandy near you!!



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