Lack of Cuban Maduro Cigars

[akyprianou]

Hello Peeps

Ive always wondered why there is such a lack in production, of Cuban Maduro Cigars. I do believe this is political between Cohiba and the rest of the Habanos umbrella of brands, considering the 'Maduro 5' is the only Cuban Maduro on the market at the moment.

Does Cuba generally not produce Maduro's? is this something political? plenty of Maduro cigars produced from other country's, why not Cuba?

Any information on this would be great!


cheers

[ValeTudoGuy]

Good question, I'm sure someone here will have a good idea. I love a good Maduro.

[Sean]

Good question, I'm sure someone here will have a good idea. I love a good Maduro.

Her here love maduros me also you know i have never gave it much though to cc maduros hopefully more experienced will tell us

[butternutsquashpie]

strangely enough (i would rather use the adjective "peculiarly guilty"), most cuban LEs are maduro wrapped and (at the very least) colorado maduro filler. they're actually a tad sweeter because of that, and i've no idea how to feel...
suspicious, i guess

Just got up from a quick dig through my humidor. and the first 4 i found (RA Extra LE11, RYJ Duke09, Hoyo Short Piramide LE11, and Upmann 48 LE09) were actually darker than the normal ones lying beside them. i do wonder why.... but i've probably said that enough times in this post.
notably (from what i remember), each and every one is sweeter than the regular vitolas

i also remember the bolivar 09 that was bordering oscoro the last time i had it. that was horrendous though, but just my 2 cents.

[butternutsquashpie]

Boredom: The recipe for discovery - and addiction, but let's not get into that.

Hell, i've nothing to do during my winter break.
So i took out the most convenient LEs and matched them up with a few regular productions that i think best reflects the general image of the Marca.

You tell me which is darker: (i shot it from my shite phone with and without flash)
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Also a true "Cuban" maduro drawn accross the top for reference.

[ValeTudoGuy]

Interesting Jeremy, I never knew any of this.

[Sean]

Come to think of it jeremy the hdm grand epicure le is darker than the usual but haven't noticed it never seeing it next to usual production

[akyprianou]

I would say the Partagas is darkest, apart from the true maduro of course

[akyprianou]

All of the LE's will be generally darker i believe as the tobacco is aged for 2 years before sent to the factories, i just dugg out my H.Upmann Robusto LE 2012, is surprisingly darker then all my others (apart from the Maduro 5 i have)

[butternutsquashpie]

I would say the Partagas is darkest, apart from the true maduro of course

aye, that was my fault. refer to the second picture as a best bet. i had a desk light that i was shining FROM the right side that could sway results.
the hoyo LE11 i find to be the same as the maduro 5 actually. it's the darkest when i held it in my hands (that i felt). followed by the RYJ.


this kind of stuff is eerie for me because (if anyone wants to doubt me on this, please do. as this was learned off a BOTL a while back) the old bargain gars were mainly maduro wrapper and filler... things like chicos, belevederes, etc were all maduro wrapped. which would make sense as they'd be more palatable for a small, hot smoke.
the same time they started doing away with many of those vitolas, habanos introduced the LE idea to the world in 2000 and (as you saw above) maduros were what they were mainly made of.

[butternutsquashpie]

All of the LE's will be generally darker i believe as the tobacco is aged for 2 years before sent to the factories,

they are aged 2 years in large sacks or drums in the factories (large vaults and movable areas much like a bank) then they are rolled.

i actually originally thought this as well.. but that doesn't add up to the Reservas and Gran Reservas (which are aged 5 and 6 years) being NOT maduro. i really don't want to dig out those in my humidor as they're all near the bottom and it takes so much effort (i don't smoke them unless i REALLY want to )

[tippexx]

Ive always wondered why there is such a lack in production

I would guess it's because Cuban cigars don't really require Maduro wrappers because they bring nothing to the taste table, and unlike some NC brands where Maduro is used to spice-up the filler tobaccos the effect on Cuban cigars would be the opposite and the tastes from the tobacco un-balanced rather than enhanced.

[SmokeyDave]

Even though I quite like maduro smokes I am always wary of especially dark wrappers, most can contain additives/dyes.

Very old wrappers such as Rocky Patel are not too bad but even those have sugar added to give sweetness (according to the RP rep at the Big Smoke 2012).

Some Cubans I would class as maduro would be like the Ramon Allones Allones Extra, no mention in the name but the colour is pretty close.

I do feel that maduro is the "in thing" at the moment, along with 50+ ring gauges.

[Stevieboy]

I often find Maduro wrappers don't burn very well and quite often need a re-light or a wee touch-up

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[butternutsquashpie]

Some Cubans I would class as maduro would be like the Ramon Allones Allones Extra, no mention in the name but the colour is pretty close.

I do feel that maduro is the "in thing" at the moment, along with 50+ ring gauges.

i refer you to my earlier post with the side by side comparisons of LEs with regular productions. take a look and i think the Hoyo Short Pirimides is the darkest BY FAR.