Ramon Allones 25-Ideales de Ramon 'Flor Extra-Fina'

[msbex1974]

I have come into possession of a sealed and beautifully kept box of Ramone Allonnes.
Being a newbie in the Cigar World, I would appreciate any information/clarification of exactly what these 25 little treasures have brought to my life!
I have scoured the net and studied countless box stamps and warranty seals, but I have been unsuccessful in dating them so far.
I have posted a few pics of the box, but do I need to add photos of actual cigars? (which means opening them!!)
Any ideas Please? Many thanks...

[Ryan]

I could well be wrong but the seal looks cut where the box opens, though that may be a fold in it. If it has been cut you can open the box. If not, don't.
From the look of it I'd say late 1960s - early 70s but somebody would need a closer look at the seal and the stamp to be more accurate than that.
If you're interested in selling, your best bet is at auction. There are two every year in London run by Mitchell Orchant.
The next one is in November. As for value, you would probably buy 3-4 boxes of current stock for the price of that box.

[tippexx]

I have come into possession of a sealed and beautifully kept box of Ramone Allonnes.
Being a newbie in the Cigar World, I would appreciate any information/clarification of exactly what these 25 little treasures have brought to my life!
I have scoured the net and studied countless box stamps and warranty seals, but I have been unsuccessful in dating them so far.
I have posted a few pics of the box, but do I need to add photos of actual cigars? (which means opening them!!)
Any ideas Please? Many thanks...

Hi. I noticed that you posted this inquiry on another board. The guy who answered was possibly the best qualified man you will find.

http://www.havahavana.com

Mail the pictures and talk to Ajay.

[bigbarneyhotdog]

Discontinued in the 1970's, that's all it says here http://www.cigars-review.org/Ramon-A...s-de-Ramon.htm
Would you accept ?50 for the box?

[Ryan]

They are quite rare, though not as rare as the Romeo Ideales, Partagas Ideales or indeed the Ramon Allones "Ideales Extra", all of which exist.
There are a few boxes of these around, though they rarely sell.
Ajay certainly knows his stuff and will be able to give you advice on these.
All I would say is, don't be too eager to sell. Business is business.

[Simon Bolivar]

R.A.Ideals.2012.03.24.SAM_3547.jpgR.A.Ideales.2012.03.24.SAM_3546.jpgHere's a pic of what the sticks actually look like. Smoked this one myself & it was amazing how much flav it still had. Of course how it's been stored over the yrs will be the most important thing.

[Ryan]

Certainly how they've been stored will make a difference to how they look, smell and probably taste.
It'll make very little difference to their market price, unless they come with some kind of evidence that they've been stored in a shop's keep since they left the distributer.

[smokeymo]

Beautiful cigars that I have dealt with many times over the years

Worth around ?1000 if the bouquet is retained

Best

Mitchell
C.Gars Ltd

[Puff Scotty]

Open them up laddie, it won't affect the value (only increase it), let's have a bit of porn...

[msbex1974]

Hi there Mitchell,
Been a while since my post and clearly I missed November's auction at C.Gars Ltd.
When is the next auction please? and should my next step be to have the cigars viewed/valued at my nearest C.Gar store?
Kind regards.. and a Happy New Year!

[msbex1974]

Beautiful cigars that I have dealt with many times over the years

Worth around ?1000 if the bouquet is retained

Best

Mitchell
C.Gars Ltd

Hi there Mitchell,
Been a while since my post and clearly I missed November's auction at C.Gars Ltd.
When is the next auction please? and should my next step be to have the cigars viewed/valued at my nearest C.Gar store?
Kind regards.. and a Happy New Year!

[tippexx]

if the bouquet is retained

That I think is one of the most significant pieces of information I've picked up in a while. As I buy most of my stuff online it's an obvious question to go along with box dates ..... might save some humming and harring or even disappointments with 99-02 vitola.

[Puff Scotty]

Morning..you said in your OP the box was sealed.... IMHO it looks like it's been opened ..look at the cut across the seal etc.
Any chance of some better pictures?....

[cj121]

An interesting acquisition indeed for the OP, who has had some valuable feedback from a variety of members and sources. Perhaps she/he ought to pop by the newbie greets forum and say hi? As Puff was saying, some pictures of the cigars would be good and no doubt very much appreciated by those who have contributed I'm sure.

Have the cigars been appropriately stored since acquiring them? It's been three months since the original post and I wonder whether the reluctance to open them has anything to do with the lack of a humidor? Let's hope not.