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In this wonderful passion and journey of discovery in cigars what's that one marque that,at least up to now and with however much or little experience you have of it,you can't get on with or just don't "get" like everyone else seems to?.My answer as it stands would be H.Upmann.I've not sampled the full range by a long way but up until now never had one didn't make me go meh
"The most futile and disastrous day seems well spent when it is reviewed through the blue, fragrant smoke of a Havana cigar."
Wow! The H.Upmann line is the last one I'd be picking that is even close to "meh"...
I can't actually think of a marca or even single out a vitola that is consistently Meh for me - excluding Guantanamero of course but I'd never smoke them anyway...
Wow! The H.Upmann line is the last one I'd be picking that is even close to "meh"...
I know! I think that was the inspiration behind asking really,cos I don't understand it myself.Is it just bad luck,not having sampled enough or just plain old personal taste?.Could be any or none of those I suppose but something completely different.I think it's all part of the beauty of it,I remember smoking my first few Partagas sticks and thinking that I'd never like them,how time has changed that!!
"The most futile and disastrous day seems well spent when it is reviewed through the blue, fragrant smoke of a Havana cigar."
I know! I think that was the inspiration behind asking really,cos I don't understand it myself. Could be any or none of those I suppose but something completely different.
Answered you're own question really. I hear Mr Kipling makes exceedingly good cakes ... but I'd only thank you for the Almond Slice.
If you want to, you can.
And, if you can, you must!
In my limited experience, Por Larranaga is the one marque that leaves me cold. Every stick I've had seems dull and insipid. Mind you, that might just be because I tend to favour the bold, 'in your face' flavours of Bolivar, Ramon Allones and Partagas....Then again, I do love H. Upmann.
If you want a midget to look like a baby, don't put a cigar in his mouth.
In my limited experience, Por Larranaga is the one marque that leaves me cold. Every stick I've had seems dull and insipid. Mind you, that might just be because I tend to favour the bold, 'in your face' flavours of Bolivar, Ramon Allones and Partagas....Then again, I do love H. Upmann.
Are you for real??
I'm smoking the Por Larranaga panetelas at the moment, and can't keep my hands off them. They are superb, and produce flavours similar to all the cigars you have mentioned including the cohiba siglo range, maybe like you said there just not bold enough...
Guantanamero were the worst marketing decision Habanos ever made, they got rid of plently of good machine mades, the ones they kept they then had hand make (ggod move) & then they produced the crap that is Guantanamero. Every shop in Cuba had them, only non cigar smokers were buying them, several shop owners admitted to be it was a disaster for Cuban cigar image. Anyway Fonseca, JL Piedra & Quintero, find no place in my humi.
Simon Bolivar: Liberator of Bolivia, Ecuador, Peru & Venezuela.
I'm being perfectly serious about the Por Larranagas... I've had too many plugged or badly constructed ones, and I've always found the flavours very muted and too understated for my liking. All the right flavours are there, but in a really watered down way - a bit like a cup of tea with way too much milk.
If you want a midget to look like a baby, don't put a cigar in his mouth.
I really enjoy hearing people's thoughts on things like this.I love how personal and subjective all tastes are (stating the obvious I know) but also how they can evolve over time as you smoke more and the palette develops.Then of course there's the whole other aspect of vintage,all good stuff
"The most futile and disastrous day seems well spent when it is reviewed through the blue, fragrant smoke of a Havana cigar."
I'm being perfectly serious about the Por Larranagas... I've had too many plugged or badly constructed ones, and I've always found the flavours very muted and too understated for my liking. All the right flavours are there, but in a really watered down way - a bit like a cup of tea with way too much milk.
I hear you, i guess it's all down to personal preference and the mood your in....btw i love very milky tea now and then depending on the mood i'm in....
Mood definitely plays a big part...but I usually prefer a black coffee to a very milky tea. That might explain my undying love for all things Bolivar.
Bolivar are great smokes and so are the partagas, some of my favourites in fact, and if i wanted a stronger fuller flavour smoke especially after a good meal, i would pick one of these brands, and sometimes i can go wow. Now for the Por Larranaga there good for me at any time during the day and that's without having to eat a good meal, they are milder and sweeter cigars imo and i know what type of smoke and flavours they produce, hence the reason i smoke them. Just because they are lighter on flavour does not mean they can't wow you, if you get my point...
I definitely agree that lighter cigars can still be impressive, and that Bolivar and Partagas aren't to be smoked at any time of day (as I found out to my expense when I tried to smoke a Royal Corona straight after breakfast! ) But when I fancy a lighter smoke, I tend to go for an H. Upmann or a Hoyo: I find both of these marques to be very consistent, and they have completely different flavour profiles to Bolis, Partagas, etc. (cream and milk chocolate rather than coffee and bitter cocoa). On the other hand, I find that Por Larranaga have a similar flavour profile to Bolis and Partagas, just more subdued. That's why they taste watered down to me.
If you want a midget to look like a baby, don't put a cigar in his mouth.
) But when I fancy a lighter smoke, I tend to go for an H. Upmann or a Hoyo: I find both of these marques to be very consistent, and they have completely different flavour profiles to Bolis, Partagas, etc. (cream and milk chocolate rather than coffee and bitter cocoa). On the other hand, I find that Por Larranaga have a similar flavour profile to Bolis and Partagas, just more subdued. That's why they taste watered down to me.
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