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    Trinidad ? Trinidad Robustos T
    Size: 124mm x 50 ? De Valle
    Unfinished smoke time: 45mins


    Box date: OUS-SEPT-09




    A short while back I reviewed the 2010 EL Short Robusto T and Kam (Kdot) PM?d the question ?How did the Short T compare to the standard T version??. At the time I couldn?t really give him a subjective answer. I had smoked a standard T, a Puff Scotty aged version which I had really enjoyed and had bought my box on the strength of. But, I hadn?t made notes and seem to remember having drunk several glasses of Havana Club on the evening of the occasion. This Review was intended to answer Kam?s question, but in truth I hope it doesn?t.




    Appearance: Nice looking cigar. Mid Claro with some surface veins and a smattering of (very) tiny green blotches. Well applied triple cap finished with the usual Trinidad pig-tail.


    Construction: Solid, firm but yielding. Pre-draw and draw were just a little loose and short of my perfect preference. The burn however was perfect ? although a little quick ? and remained die straight throughout the smoke. The mid-grey ash stayed compact and firm until into the final third where it became a bit ragged and flaked off more readily. No re-lights, no corrections.

    Flavour: The pre-draw aroma was fabulous, haylike and slightly animal. First draw however was ?soap? and not nice at all. The chemical taste which I can only describe like being in the TK Maxx cosmetics section after the ?lumpen? customers had opened all the packets was the flavour base, and continued although subsiding throughout all three thirds. The Cuban citrus ?twang? when it appeared was muted and very much ?to the back?. Half way into the first third the flavour did take on some woodiness and masculinity and switching to retro-hale I could pick of some more pleasant flavours akin to porridge and dry oat biscuits. At this point Christine came into the conservatory and remarked on how nice the smoke aroma was, which was true, but better than the taste. At two thirds the cosmetic taste was dropping off a tad but was still the main event. To sum the third it was mild (strengthwise) linear and ghastly! In the final third the nicotine power increased dramatically and a little more wood made an appearance. However, by this time the Cuban twang disappeared and with the cosmetic taste lining my mouth and tongue making me feel uncomfortable I decided to do something I?ve not done before. I abandoned the Review.


    Overall: Good looking well constructed easy to smoke cigar. I hope it was a rogue and leaving the rest in their box for another year will improve them. On this showing the Trinidad Robustos T doesn?t even bare comparison with the Short, because tasteing like it did it wouldn?t see off a Guantanamera Cristales. Sorry Kam, I know this is not what you?re wanting to hear and that these can be miles, miles better, but I can only Review as it is on the day.
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  • #2
    You must of got a dud or a sickie one there Tipp. The 'soap' sensation has been observed before on occasional sticks.
    Originally posted by Simon Bolivar
    Little medical correction there Steve, you will surely die...but not from smoking these

    Originally posted by Ryan
    I think that's for lighting electronic cigarettes

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    • #3
      I don't know why, but the mere mention of the Short Robusto reminded me of one of the greatest cigar reviews of all time:

      Trinidad Short Robusto LE 2010 I can't bring myself to doing a full review on the Trinidad Short Robusto T. The experience was just too woeful, too disappointing. Now I know there are some of you who love this cigar. I can't see it and as always will call it as I see it. if there was a corner in ...


      Anyway, yet another good read Tip. I still can't believe that I haven't had one of these, had the rest of the Trini line up, but not the robusto. Maybe on my next trip to the tobacconist... Oh yes, that's tomorrow...

      PS. Someone's probably already said this, but you have lovely handwriting...
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      • #4
        Originally posted by monkey66 View Post
        You must of got a dud or a sickie one there Tipp. The 'soap' sensation has been observed before on occasional sticks.
        Well, I just hope the sickie is just temporary and not terminal Monk. Convalescence for a while I think.
        If you want to, you can.
        And, if you can, you must!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Simon-JG-hr View Post
          I don't know why, but the mere mention of the Short Robusto reminded me of one of the greatest cigar reviews of all time:

          Trinidad Short Robusto LE 2010 I can't bring myself to doing a full review on the Trinidad Short Robusto T. The experience was just too woeful, too disappointing. Now I know there are some of you who love this cigar. I can't see it and as always will call it as I see it. if there was a corner in ...


          Anyway, yet another good read Tip. I still can't believe that I haven't had one of these, had the rest of the Trini line up, but not the robusto. Maybe on my next trip to the tobacconist... Oh yes, that's tomorrow...

          PS. Someone's probably already said this, but you have lovely handwriting...
          That FoH Video Review is a classic. I read another recent rant of Rob's about the Short Rob '10 EL - never heard a ciger get such a pasting!!!

          I was going to say thanks for the review Tippex, but I'm not sure thanks is the right word. You might have put me off buying a box...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by spirit_of_will View Post
            That FoH Video Review is a classic. I read another recent rant of Rob's about the Short Rob '10 EL - never heard a ciger get such a pasting!!!

            I was going to say thanks for the review Tippex, but I'm not sure thanks is the right word. You might have put me off buying a box...
            Just a Roo winge I thought, more about size and price than about what the were supposed to be doing. IMO the Short T is the best of the 2010 EL and will only get better.

            Don't let today's Review put anyone off the Robustos T .... on proper form it's a great cigar. As I said, the one from Puff Scotty was enough to convince me on a box.
            If you want to, you can.
            And, if you can, you must!

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            • #7
              Wasn't this Suckling's cigar of 2010? He was certainly raving about one Trini IIRC?
              I've only had a couple of these but really loved them. Picked them up in Milan from an '09 box I think?!


              Tapatalked

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              • #8
                Thanks for the review Tipp...

                I am sure this must have been a sick stick...

                The ones I have had of these have been a damn fine smoke...

                Cheers, HabanoSy

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by tippexx View Post
                  Just a Roo winge I thought, more about size and price than about what the were supposed to be doing. IMO the Short T is the best of the 2010 EL and will only get better.

                  Don't let today's Review put anyone off the Robustos T .... on proper form it's a great cigar. As I said, the one from Puff Scotty was enough to convince me on a box.
                  I think you're right about Rob's Trinni Short Rob rant, funny viewing though!

                  I've really enjoyed the other Trinni's that I've had, the flavour profile works for me which I can't say the same for all the Cohiba's I've tried. I need a trip out to Geneva or Gib to pick up a decent selection of some singles that I'm crying out to try a couple of. Sometimes the UK price when I wander into JJF's can put me off picking up something like this Robusto T.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by monkey66 View Post
                    You must of got a dud or a sickie one there Tipp. The 'soap' sensation has been observed before on occasional sticks.

                    Trinni Robbie T (Revised)
                    Smoke time: 1hour 15mins


                    Box date: 0US-SEPT-09


                    Well. Only one way to find out. This morning I smoked another.
                    Note: Yesterdays soap taste lingered in my mouth all day. I tried smoking a few minis and they tasted foul. Dinner was spoilt because of it, and despite 3 cans of Fosters and a couple of goes with Sensodyne it was still there last night. Sorry there are no pics except the last one, I took loads but ran out of card space, in trying to free a bit of space I managed to erase all the proceeding images.

                    Appearance: Same as yesterday, but without any tiny green blotches. (I don?t the blotches are in any way significant as they;re often found on cigar wrappers regardless of brand or vitola).


                    Construction: Exactly the same as yesterday although if anything I thought the ash a little darker, but that might just been the light and my dull brain playing tricks on me. No re-lights, no corrections.


                    Flavour: The pre-draw aroma was not as strong as yesterday but still had the same haylike and slightly animal quality.
                    First draw was total relief and FF for that. Mellow wood over light citrus, Trinni was back in business. Great flavours getting only better as the wood taste became dryer and citrus eased into perfect balance. Other flavors, like ham (yes, honestly), bitter orange marmalade, sweet pepper could also be detected along with a slight saltiness that held them together. Pepper in the spice sense I could also easily detect (as it always makes me sneeze), but just in the right quantity, (over peppery cigars I don?t much care for). Around the half make the tobacco strength increased from light to an easy medium and continued gaining right untill the end, but not in any uncomfortable way. At two thirds the woods and the citrus began to die away, but not to any detriment to the delicious fuller bodied and more animal flavors left behind. However halfway through the final third something odd occurred, the cigar seemed to ?go off the boil? for a minute or two, flavourwise and in the smoothness of the smoke, but then picked up again as suddenly as it had left off. The finale when it arrived was deep, rich and luxurious with the odd note of chocolate.


                    Overall: A massive, massive improvement on yesterday. And one fabulous Cuban.


                    Answer for Kam: IMHO, and certainly on this showing the Robustos T is a great cigar. Are the Robustos T and the Short Robustos T comparable. Yes and no. I think Robustos T shares more in common with the Reyes especially in the balance of woodness and typically Cuban vegetal citrus.
                    The Robustos T is a very smooth, creamy, complex and refined smoke. The Short Robusto T, to me anyway, did not have the usual Cuban twang, instead it starts of at the point where the Robustos T is loosing it?s citrus, but its wood flavors are far cleaner and more sophisticated because of it, and it then develops getting better and better.


                    OK, todays Robustos was an 09 and Monk would argue that?s a bit young to be comparing with an EL rolled from aged tobaccos. If I?m honest, I would agree with him. Two or three more years and my 09s will only be better .... but the Short Ts will also be a year or two down the line.


                    To anyone who can. My Short T advice would be to pick up a brace, one to smoke and one to squirrel away, expensive maybe, but I doubt you?ll regret doing it!
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by tippexx View Post
                      Well. Only one way to find out. This morning I smoked another.
                      That is definitely the way to do it and answer the question we all had on our minds! Great review, Tipp and thanks!

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                      • #12
                        I feel more confident about my box of 12 now, purely an impulse buy and for a while there I thought a mistake too.
                        Exploring the world - one smoke at a time.

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                        • #13
                          That's more like it, great

                          Actually I don't think the T's need much age to be great, mine are 09's and smoke lovely now. Still since they only came out in 09 it will be a few years before we find out how much better they get.

                          I have to say that while I am a big advocate for ageing all CC's we should not ignore common sense, if something is smoking great then smoke them
                          Originally posted by Simon Bolivar
                          Little medical correction there Steve, you will surely die...but not from smoking these

                          Originally posted by Ryan
                          I think that's for lighting electronic cigarettes

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SmokeyDave View Post
                            I feel more confident about my box of 12 now, purely an impulse buy and for a while there I thought a mistake too.
                            no mistake, send them to me if you are worried
                            Originally posted by Simon Bolivar
                            Little medical correction there Steve, you will surely die...but not from smoking these

                            Originally posted by Ryan
                            I think that's for lighting electronic cigarettes

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                            • #15
                              great re-review Arf. Still pricey, but I might pick up a couple of each on my next visit to the B&M. cheers very much.
                              Lover of fine Cubans since 2006

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