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    Last night i had a Trini Vigia, paired with a decent IPA. Bought earlier in the year, before they went out of stock in a number of shops for a short while, so guessing it was about 12-15 months old by the time i smoked it.

    I tend to keep mine at around 70, so was supple and springy upon inspection. It cut easily and cleanly, and lit up very well. The wrapper was nice and smooth, and held a good light sheen. The pre-lighting draw was quite sweet and chewy- creme caramel underpinned a fairly light, almost fruity spice to it. What started as an easy drawing stick, stayed exactly that way and burned evenly throughout. Whether its a product of a relatively wet stick, but the ash seemed to have a flimsy outer layer, not more than a millimeter thick that flaked away with a firm core.... Not seen that before.

    this was an easy going smoke, really approachable throughout. In the opening few draws, and then periodically through the first half i got hits of sea salt, both on the draw, and tasted on my lips. The first third gave consistent notes of hay, and the odd hit of fresh cut grass.There was a good underlying caramel tone to this smoke- without getting sweet. this was accompanied by soft underlying hints of coffee n cedar. Flavours were pretty consistent beyond the first third, which makes me think that this is a stick that needs a longer nap, in order to evolve mature and better figure out what it is. Towards the end, there was a fair dose of Vitamin N, not unpleasamt but certainly was there.

    I've had these in the humi for c6 months or so and have taken one on several holidays, resisting it each time. With a days good rugby (watching!) behind me, a warm clear evening was too good to miss, and so the trini was served up! And it wasnt disappointing. But while i am no expert i think these have their best days yet to come. Suspect i will try to pick up a 12 count box of these to tuck away for a few years, and work through the half dozen or so i have in a humi, over the intervening period to see how they evolve.

    Enjoy!

    MRC
    "Dear heart, you're talking to a man- a real man- who drinks straight Tequilla, with lime and salt on the rim, and smokes cigars" (J Zavala)

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    Excellent review, thanks for putting it up. Sound like a good smoke but definitely one for the future.
    It's not the arrow, it's the Indian !

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    • #3
      Great review. I have one resting in my humi. I will resist.

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      • #4
        image.jpgAnd here it is!
        "Dear heart, you're talking to a man- a real man- who drinks straight Tequilla, with lime and salt on the rim, and smokes cigars" (J Zavala)

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        • #5
          Darn generous bombing in the first place, haven't tried this myself, not into the large ring gauges but 5yrs is the earliest to expect it be be approaching it's best, being on the large size you can expect it to take even longer. So if you fancy some a box & stick it in the bottom of the humi & forget about it.
          Simon Bolivar: Liberator of Bolivia, Ecuador, Peru & Venezuela.

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          • #6
            I had one of these on Saturday, it was a good cigar and took much longer to smoke than I expected, it was quite typical of what I normally get from Trinidad (cloves and earth)

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            • #7
              Nice review emaresse thanks for sharing

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              • #8
                Great review, I do love Trinis and have a couple of these sitting in my humidor, maybe I'll wait a little to try one.

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                • #9
                  Trini Vigia

                  Excellent review and although the first one of these I tried recently was enjoyable, I too felt it could have done with some more time on it.


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                  • #10
                    2 reviews go up at the same time.

                    CC review: Replies: 8 Views: 39

                    NC review: Replies: 0
                    Views: 13

                    This forum is rigged...

                    But I do have to try a Trinidad some time... They just seem so expensive when I'm browsing and I love all those small CC brands that are much cheaper usually of the same quality. So I can't help but wonder if some CC brands are simply a marketing tool. An expensive alternative to make others look cheaper and to collect the money of those of us that feel better when they buy something more expensive.

                    Would you say the Trinidad are worth the extra money?

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                    • #11
                      Very nice review, I've got to give mine a try soon enough!
                      David

                      ?Use any means to keep from being a genius, all means to become one.? John Cage

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                      • #12
                        Trini Vigia

                        Originally posted by Niela View Post
                        2 So I can't help but wonder if some CC brands are simply a marketing tool. An expensive alternative to make others look cheaper and to collect the money of those of us that feel better when they buy something more expensive.

                        Would you say the Trinidad are worth the extra money?
                        They are less of a marketing tool than some NC brands, just look at that Davidoff released recently (which was ?500 a stick or whatever it was), I'm not saying HSA don't do the same thing, but it isn't a CC phenomenon. I think many will agree that there does come a point where no matter how well a cigar smokes, it will never justify the price tag

                        In terms of paying the extra and whether its worth it, personally I really enjoy both Cohiba and Trinidad and as a cigar enthusiast want to smoke both and will therefore pay the extra, but they're not a regular smoke.

                        Its not as simplistic as saying this was ?x more than this but was/wasn't worth ?x more

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Niela View Post
                          2 reviews go up at the same time.

                          CC review: Replies: 8 Views: 39

                          NC review: Replies: 0
                          Views: 13

                          This forum is rigged...

                          But I do have to try a Trinidad some time... They just seem so expensive when I'm browsing and I love all those small CC brands that are much cheaper usually of the same quality. So I can't help but wonder if some CC brands are simply a marketing tool. An expensive alternative to make others look cheaper and to collect the money of those of us that feel better when they buy something more expensive.

                          Would you say the Trinidad are worth the extra money?
                          I smoke 50:50 CC:NC and both have their virtue. In general I seem to have gravitated to the fuller flavour smokes, and I find complexity of flavour to be essential. There is more 'known' about CC's for longer, given their pedigree etc etc etc.

                          NC's always feel like more of a punt - in the main unfairly so! Given the wealth of info & insight that there is out there nowadays you can find sticks that are entrely more to your taste in every dimension.

                          So... worth the money? I try hard not to think about the money! The UK is possibly the worst part of the planet to want to be when it comes to building a collection as the taxation is so high. But we are well served with regards to quality vendors, so we enjoy premium, quality assured product.

                          Buy smart whenever possible.I tend to buy all things on a basis of trying singles, finding go to sticks, and then buy a box. That box might be picked up overseas or online, but rarely will be walk up retail in the UK. The singles, generally will involve going to a store and talking and benefitting from the service that the store might offer - in that sense what ever the stick, the premium price feels justified.

                          IMHO some CC's are questionable on price ... i've never had a BHK 54, and am unlikely to try one as almost every review points to the 52 based on price, taste, and quality. Almost everyone seems to have found a 54 thats plugged!!

                          But some of the best cigars I've had in my limited exposure have been NC's (custom rolled freebie Davidoffs as it happens) where the price was just right!

                          not sure I've answered yoru question but I am going to go read the NC review though!
                          "Dear heart, you're talking to a man- a real man- who drinks straight Tequilla, with lime and salt on the rim, and smokes cigars" (J Zavala)

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by sheppsea View Post
                            They are less of a marketing tool than some NC brands, just look at that Davidoff released recently (which was ?500 a stick or whatever it was), I'm not saying HSA don't do the same thing, but it isn't a CC phenomenon. I think many will agree that there does come a point where no matter how well a cigar smokes, it will never justify the price tag

                            In terms of paying the extra and whether its worth it, personally I really enjoy both Cohiba and Trinidad and as a cigar enthusiast want to smoke both and will therefore pay the extra, but they're not a regular smoke.

                            Its not as simplistic as saying this was ?x note than this but was/wasn't worth ?x more
                            Oh yeah, same here. I had a few Cohibas and always enjoyed the smoke. Did I enjoy it that much more than a Ramon Allones for example? I'm not sure.

                            And I agree. A ?500 cigar is just nonesense. A cigar trader once told me that the cost of a cigar is the labour, not the tobacco. So to roll an expensive cigar shouldn't cost much more than to roll a cheaper one. My thought was that Habanos purposefully has a few brands with high prices like Trinidad and Cohiba and some on a lower band. The higher price could just be a marketing tool though to offer various price ranges for various customers.

                            And lets face it. When you pay ?40 for a single stick, you'll automatically appreciate it more. Would it really stand out in a blind tasting though? That was my question.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Emaresee View Post
                              ...but I am going to go read the NC review though!
                              Purpose fulfilled...

                              But in regards to price. I wasn't talking about absolute price, but relative price. Cohibas are more expensive than other CCs. Or a Behike is more expensive than a Siglo V.

                              Trinidads are also more expensive than most other CCs. But are they really better than other CCs? That's the question. If you wouldn't care about money and you can decide between a box of Trinidads and a box of Ramon Allones (as an example) would you go for a Trinidad?

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