Cohiba Siglo V (2004).

[whisky77]

Montecristo Siglo V (2004 vintage).

Ring gauge 43,170 mm in the length.

Appearance; Wrapper was of good quality as you would expect from Cohiba and the entire box of 25 was uniform in its colour.

Construction; Unfortunately not as good as the current release from Cohiba and not what I was expecting. Initially there was a fantastic aroma on opening the box which ultimately was not reflected upon smoking the cigar.

Taste; Mellowed due to having been stored since 2004, initially slight cocoa/chocolate taste which seemed to last only for the first third of the cigar, ageing process has made the flavours more refined and subtle than I had anticipated. The draw was not to be faulted and remained consistent throughout.

Summary; The construction and appearance was not the best and although still a very refined smoke, ultimately not as rich or enjoyable as the more recent releases of SigloVI or Siglo IV.

Score; I would rate this as a 6.5/10.

[Robusto]

One day in the future I'm going to take a drive through Siglo country. I've tried several VIs and one IV, but I want to have a crack at the others eventually.

[whisky77]

Siglo range.

Robusto,
I have never tried the Siglo I, but i suppose it depends on the circumstances and amount of time you can set aside.The IV is probably my favourite as you can get a good measure of what to expect from the rest of the range when smoking the IV.The II can also be a nice little cigar during the day if you are pushed for time.

[Robusto]

When I've got my new humi some time down the line, I'm going to get a couple of each Siglo number and work my way through them. Obviously with gaps, but quite scientifically.

[Stevieboy]

Great review W77 I had a few from Gesto in a 5pack last year. Unfortunately, 4 of the 5 were very tight and one was plugged . Great taste though...what there was of it

[Mr Moore]

Good honest review, I really enjoy reading the more learned members reviews, I just wish more cigars was reviewed by our members, its a good resource.

[TJCoro]

A Rose by any other scent is still a Puro.

Good honest review, I really enjoy reading the more learned members reviews, I just wish more cigars was reviewed by our members, its a good resource.

I agree, Mr. Moore, I enjoy reading the reviews of those members who take the time to post their puro findings here.

I have to admit, however, I'm a bit lazy towards posting fine reviews, like the one at the top of this thread. But to be honest, senor, I don't really detect the super fine nuances in a puro that other's here and elsewhere seem to, so what the hell would I say in a review...this puro is long or short, it's brown or reddish brow, it's square or round, and it tastes really good or not.

I simply know a good puro when I smoke it.

Names TJ, TJCore, and to be honest, I can't detect or identify flavors, like cedar, earth, leather, woody or coffee or herbal notes, pencil lead, dirt, or horse manure in the the fine puros that I smoke.

[Mr Moore]

Im surprised there TJ.


I know I have detected different notes in a cigar, maybe its something to do with the palate.
I say that because I know I have a sensative palate, I can't drink orange squash without wincing if its too sour !

[Boss Hog]

I'm exactly the same, I had my first Cohiba Siglo IV last night and although I enjoyed it immensely I'm not sure a could pick out the subtle flavours from it. Which surprised me as being a foodie I have a delicate pallete and can normally pick out things like that. I could tell it was smooth and rich but I didnt notice any certain flavours as I went through each third.
Maybe I was expecting too much based on how everyone raves about them. then I got to thinking that could there be something wrong with it as it went out 3 times. But it has been resting in my humi for about 3 weeks and I dont think there's anything wrong with the humi?
Then I started thinking was it cos I was drinking coffee with it as well?
My last thought which seems like the best was to experience as many more cuabans as I can to compare it against.

[whisky77]

I'm exactly the same, I had my first Cohiba Siglo IV last night and although I enjoyed it immensely I'm not sure a could pick out the subtle flavours from it. Which surprised me as being a foodie I have a delicate pallete and can normally pick out things like that. I could tell it was smooth and rich but I didnt notice any certain flavours as I went through each third.
Maybe I was expecting too much based on how everyone raves about them. then I got to thinking that could there be something wrong with it as it went out 3 times. But it has been resting in my humi for about 3 weeks and I dont think there's anything wrong with the humi?
Then I started thinking was it cos I was drinking coffee with it as well?
My last thought which seems like the best was to experience as many more cuabans as I can to compare it against.

Boss, I think you hit the nail on the head.You have to smoke the different Vitolas and brands to give yourself an idea of your favourites.Normally when i smoke in the evening i always have a drink to complement what i am smoking.Normally i opt for whisky, cognac, brandy or port ( obviously not at the same time) depending on my mood;what is interesting is when you find a drink which compliments but does not overide your enjoyment of your cigar.Unfortunately this can only be achieved over time and as you said, everyones sense of taste is different.

[Stevieboy]

I agree, Mr. Moore, I enjoy reading the reviews of those members who take the time to post their puro findings here.

I have to admit, however, I'm a bit lazy towards posting fine reviews, like the one at the top of this thread. But to be honest, senor, I don't really detect the super fine nuances in a puro that other's here and elsewhere seem to, so what the hell would I say in a review...this puro is long or short, it's brown or reddish brow, it's square or round, and it tastes really good or not.

I simply know a good puro when I smoke it.

Names TJ, TJCore, and to be honest, I can't detect or identify flavors, like cedar, earth, leather, woody or coffee or herbal notes, pencil lead, dirt, or horse manure in the the fine puros that I smoke.

So I'm not alone then! I can only detect sweet,sour and whether I like it or not...seldom specific flacours. I read a pretentious review lately where the reviewer said he detected "church pews"..what a tool

[Robusto]

the reviewer said he detected "church pews"

Come in, Vicar!

[TJCoro]

Can you taste the flavors?

AMAZING! Next the will be tasting ass wipes!

No, young Stevielad, you are not alone....and there is no Santa Clause or Easter Bunny!

Good of you to admit it.

This issue was discussed at CA's website if anyone is interested in reading their explanations of the "flavors" they discribe in their reviews.

Names TJ, TJCoro, and I ain't got no taste!

[Mr Moore]

Alright TJ


I am first to say I don't know much when it comes to cigars, but Iv'e had a havana honey del sol chocolate and it tasted sweet and creamy and dare I say it chocolatey, Iv'e tried a [cheap] alec bradley SOC and that was really sweet, Iv'e tried a partagas black and that did taste peppery and spicy, Im not saying I have detected hints of rose and coffee, but I have detected creamy tastes, sweet notes and strong spicy flavours.
I know I can't be alone in detecting these notes, as I say I don't even class myself as a proper cigar smoker, owing to the fact I have not been smoking long enough and have not tried enough different cigars.
Maybe its because Im smoking NCs and they have more diverse flavours, I don't know.
Another thought, I tend to like the weaker bodied cigars, I wonder due to the fact they are not so full in body, I wonder if the palate is more able to taste creamy notes.
Just to add I use the word creamy because I can't find another word what best describes the taste and maybe this is where all this chatter comes from of hints of this and that, due to the fact some smokers trying to translate strong and weak cigars tastes.

[Robusto]

CHURCH PEWS

I love language that arses about. I loved Chris Morris when he described things 'smelling like hammers', and so on. Mucking about with language is fun.

I have a French friend who is a top wine taster. The descriptions of different nuances in wine-tasting are incredibly complex - and it can seem artificial. I presume the tobacco blenders at Cohiba, and so on, must have the most developed tastebuds to produce exquisite cigars.

There is artificiality abroad in the food and drink review world. Jilly Hoolden used to come out with the most stupid similes to do with food and wine, and she and the programme's producers knew damn well that it would make peoople laugh and react.

I watched the Antiques Roadshow last night. Could you put together a programme that draws together toffs and bottoms, posh and pikey, more than this? It's almost like a play rather than a turn-up show, and that's why it appeals, I think. A parody.

So - Some reviews and reviewers are parodies, I reckon. And some reviews are more balanced and easier to decipher.

I sense the same tastes as you above, MM. I also think that to over-educate yourself sometimes can kill your joy. What can I say? Teaching does this to stuff that is quite enjoyable sometimes. (The government has made me a serial killer teacher, I tell you. A killjoy in handcuffs). And in the What Are You Reading? thread, I stated that because I studied Literature for four years, it has killed off my pleasure in casual reading. I can't complete a book!

So sometimes - just sometimes - going into something TOO deeply really can kill pleasure. And I say that NOT as a total Philistine!

If I enjoy listening to Shine On You Crazy Diamond, do I have to analyse it to death and say why?

I'm impressed by how wide quite a few people's knowledge of cigars is on the site. I've discovered what I like far more slowly and have stuck to my favourite tastes. For some reason, CITRUS is something that my mouth and senses picks up, but that might seem alien to other people.

The adjective I use for a disappointing or dull smoke is GREY, and for me that's the worst smoke of all.

I always want a smoke that is never grey, and which reminds me of the animal shit it was grown in - and which, to me, has something really uplifting and sexy to its taste and smell. It has to arouse to be good.

I could have expressed myself better here. In essence I watch for bullshit in ANYTHING that's being reviewed... whilst still appreciating really good reviews.

In the end - without too much description - I love cigars that my tastebuds and my nostrils and my fingers and my eyeballs get excited by. My brain wakes up and I can tell all this by the fact that my eyes open wide and I smile like a Cheshire cat.

And for about ninety minutes on average, I'm a man at great peace.