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Grats on the win... And reason for the thread necro: I had a nub 460 habano down to the length of the infamous pic, with careful sliding of band didn't have ash fall once.
Didn't take a pic of my hand made ash tray n holder (base of Tyskie tin, cut and carefully folded haha)... Grr wish I had, as the nub was inverted for the placement of the vertical pic the damn ash fell off. DOH!
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