Do you consider "value" in your cigar choice?

[Bwgan]

Being an engineer, I like to analyse things......often to a mind numbing anal level!!! So, I've created a spreadsheet of brand/size/price and come up with a value factor (basic calculation of (widthxlength)/price). It would seem that in almost all brands, the petit corona comes out as the best value!
Just thought I'd share that with you!
So, do you consider the value element of the stick?

[davidruddell]

Never considered it in such a statistical way, but value def comes into it.

Be interested in seeing the spreadsheet tho!

[Bwgan]

I'll look into that google spreadsheet thingy when I get home!

[jibjob79]

If you want to get really anal you should subtract the usual amount of length of nub you leave from the length of each cigar and see what that does to your results. I bet the petit corona won't be the best value any more with an inch being proportionally more of length compared to a churchill. Also your formula sounds like you are assuming a standard value for tobacco burn rate. I can smoke an epi no2 as fast as u can breath where as other cigars of similar size take much longer.

Back to the original question, if a cigar delivers what I expect having chosen it for a particular reason then I would consider it value for money. To me cigars are more about qualitative pleasure rather than quantitive numbers.

Hungover rant over and out.


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[Simon-JG-hr]

Put slightly better than I could have managed there jibjob.

Value for me is regarding enjoyment - so a more expensive, yet smaller, cigar could be better value in my book.

None-the-less, I'd be interested to see this spreadsheet Bwgan, it'd certainly be an interesting thing to consider - what size offers most for the money (if not time/quality).

[tippexx]

I not sure brand/size/price are the determiners of 'value'.

Weight and quality of leaf are just as important. I worked out once, gram for gram of tobacco a Punch Margaritas (Carolinas) costs near enough the same as a Cohiba Siglo VI (Ca?onazo).

With weight as part of the calculation, I think it's Robustos rather than Petit Coronas which offer the best value. Then if you use Brand/size/price point .... PSD4 by a head.

[Lilyboo]

Back to the original question, if a cigar delivers what I expect having chosen it for a particular reason then I would consider it value for money. To me cigars are more about qualitative pleasure rather than quantitive numbers.

I would agree with that. If I spent ?20 on a stick and it was great I would argue that it was good value. If I spent ?3 on a stick and it was horrid, I would say that was poor value.

I would love to spend ?20 on a stick on a regular basis though!

[eggopp]

I simply know what i like and buy it, thats value to me... If i buy a single for the first time and like it, i will buy it again, if not i wont, so i value each item differently.

[Bwgan]

I agree that its up to each individual to assess what value means to them.......i just chose the monetary one!!
No need to bust a blood vessel jibby dude

[daverave999]

I do consider value, but perhaps not in quite the same way. I have a ceiling on what I will pay for 'the experience of smoking a cigar' but it's not dependent on the size.
Just upload the file to Google Docs and set the permissions to share with everyone, then link it here. I would also be interested to see.

[bigbarneyhotdog]

One for our brother, Simon Bolivar. AKA Mr Spreadsheet

[tippexx]

So, do you consider the value element of the stick?

The taste has to come first irrespective of size or cost, which is as it is, as long as you're prepared to bear it.
My next big deciding factor is 'time'. I don't mean the duration smoke time of the cigar but the 'comfortable' time in which to smoke it, to relax into it and really enjoy it. There would for example be no point in my buying a Behike for Christmas and then attempt smoking it (as I have to) shivering outside in the cold, knowing I would either rush it or worse abandon it because I was uncomfortable. Not good value!
On the other hand, the same cigar on a warm Summer's evening smoked in the company of friends I might consider worth every penny. (If I knew what a Behike tasted like, and to find out I'll need to ask myself which is the better, to stump up the asking, or remain ignorant?).

[Boss Hog]

interest point from jibjob, you should calculate the average length of the nub bit you leave at the end of the cigar divide that up to get a cost per inch or cm for example and times it by your weekly monthly consumption.
I'm sure that the results would be surprising to see how much it costs on the bit we are actually throwing away / wasted.
of course some may argue that we are throwing money away all the time as were not getting anything out of it. (apart from sheer enjoyment)

[rokkitsci]

From one engineer to another...

I've created a spreadsheet of brand/size/price and come up with a value factor (basic calculation of (widthxlength)/price). It would seem that in almost all brands, the petit corona comes out as the best value!

Woefully inadequate.

Even throwing in The Jibbers addition:

If you want to get really anal you should subtract the usual amount of length of nub you leave from the length of each cigar and see what that does to your results.

we still lack some scientifical-type rudiments which cannot be easily ignored. Now it just so happens that whilst still gainfully employed as a rokkit scientist, we folks at NASA actually came up with a formula for calcuculating the enjoyment quotient of virtually any seegar. Here is my lurvely torcedora, Yekaterina, writing out the simplified version of the formula which can be easily understood by anyone with a basic understanding of Multi-Dimensional Fractal Subspaces:

[satch]

Oh of course! It all makes sense now.
Cuh! what was I thinking.