Do you consider "value" in your cigar choice?

[Simon Bolivar]

Bigbarneyhotdog, what a good memory you have Yep I was begining to think I was the most 'anal' recorder of smoking stats but it seems I am no longer alone. I rate my cigars by 5 qualities: a combined (draw, ash, smoke), Favour (the most important for me), Value (was the cost balanced with the experience or better) Overall Satisfaction. I mark each out of ten & then dble for final score for cigar.
I have also worked out the amount smoked & the square of the amount actually smoked. This has changed a little as I used to leave around 2 3/4" but now it's nearer two unless it's exceptional & doesn't become bitter, then I have gone down to 1/2". However although the past cigars have this receorded when smoking a new vitola, I don't bother with this any more.
I think the value is important. I smoke Havanas from E1 to E28 but although I don't expect the same from a E5 stick as a E25 stick, I do expect to enjoy both & believe afterwards that the price was worth the experience, if not (duff stiks aside) I would not be enjoying it as much as if I thought it money well spent.
You show me yours Bwgan & I'll show you mine

[cohibaIV]

The taste has to come first irrespective of size or cost, which is as it is, as long as you're prepared to bear it.
My next big deciding factor is 'time'. I don't mean the duration smoke time of the cigar but the 'comfortable' time in which to smoke it, to relax into it and really enjoy it. There would for example be no point in my buying a Behike for Christmas and then attempt smoking it (as I have to) shivering outside in the cold, knowing I would either rush it or worse abandon it because I was uncomfortable. Not good value!
On the other hand, the same cigar on a warm Summer's evening smoked in the company of friends I might consider worth every penny. (If I knew what a Behike tasted like, and to find out I'll need to ask myself which is the better, to stump up the asking, or remain ignorant?).

What can I day...

DITTO....

[cohibaIV]

Woefully inadequate.

Even throwing in The Jibbers addition:



we still lack some scientifical-type rudiments which cannot be easily ignored. Now it just so happens that whilst still gainfully employed as a rokkit scientist, we folks at NASA actually came up with a formula for calcuculating the enjoyment quotient of virtually any seegar. Here is my lurvely torcedora, Yekaterina, writing out the simplified version of the formula which can be easily understood by anyone with a basic understanding of Multi-Dimensional Fractal Subspaces:

I'm sure I see a some thing wrong in this pic Rokkitski....

[Soulmanure]

Woefully inadequate.

Even throwing in The Jibbers addition:



we still lack some scientifical-type rudiments which cannot be easily ignored. Now it just so happens that whilst still gainfully employed as a rokkit scientist, we folks at NASA actually came up with a formula for calcuculating the enjoyment quotient of virtually any seegar. Here is my lurvely torcedora, Yekaterina, writing out the simplified version of the formula which can be easily understood by anyone with a basic understanding of Multi-Dimensional Fractal Subspaces:

Ah ha, so JFK did have a second shooter. I knew it!

[Bwgan]

Simon Bolivar.............you seem to be on the same wavelength as me!!!
The people that say that factors such as the amount you leave should be taken into account are wrong....you pay the same amount for a stick you leave just lit as you do smoked to the finger! What about tubed..you dont smoke the tube do you? maybe you do!?
I'm surprised I've sparked such debate......as someone has mentioned, the real truth is we spend stupid amount of money on something we burn...as the yanks say, go figure!

[whisky77]

Price?

Put slightly better than I could have managed there jibjob.

Value for me is regarding enjoyment - so a more expensive, yet smaller, cigar could be better value in my book.

None-the-less, I'd be interested to see this spreadsheet Bwgan, it'd certainly be an interesting thing to consider - what size offers most for the money (if not time/quality).

I agree with Simon on this one, it`s about the enjoyment of your smokes regardless of price.

[jibjob79]

The people that say that factors such as the amount you leave should be taken into account are wrong....you pay the same amount for a stick you leave just lit as you do smoked to the finger! What about tubed..you dont smoke the tube do you? maybe you do!?
I'm surprised I've sparked such debate......as someone has mentioned, the real truth is we spend stupid amount of money on something we burn...as the yanks say, go figure!

i wouldn't say wrong, maybe just a different point of view, it was just a suggestion from myself and it would be how i choose to calculate cigar monetary value if i decided to be that anal about it, for the record i don't as i smoke cigars for pleasure but i am anal about details and getting calculations correct

You pay for the whole cigar, tube maybe, p&p, s&h or fuel costs if you pick it up, minus discount applied to a big order etc.... I take this to be the the total cost incurred by myself for the pleasure to smoke a particular stick.

In order to compare the value to myself from different cigar sizes, the volume of tobacco smoked must be calculated (this is the easiest way as ring gauge and length are supplied by manufacturers) as the amount of nub (unsmoked tobacco but paid for) i leave which can be different from cigar to cigar. The ratio of nub to cigar volume can for me go from anywhere from 1 to 4 to 1 to 10 which will skew the monetary value (cost verses amount smoked) calculations, at least for me, as the nub can cost anywhere between ?4 and ?0.20 You don't smoke (thus get enjoyment from) the p&p costs, tube or nub of the cigar etc but to make an accurate comparison against other smokers and other cigars which have different costs associated to them you need to take them into account.

Therefore my calculation is the total cost to me to acquire said stick verses the amount (volume) of cigar i have chosen to smoke if i were to judge the value of a cigar on purely amount of tobacco smoked verse cost incurred to me. I'd love a buy back scheme of unused tobacco but i don't think that is going to happen any time soon lol. Dragons Den proposal no.104 noted for future presentation lol.

For example lets say me and my friend buy the exact same ?10 cigar but I'm a stingy Northerner and smoke 90% of it but he is old school and follows the rule of only smoking half a cigar 50%. Now i find it hard to say he has smoked the same value of cigar to me, puff per puff it is almost costing him almost twice as much as me but we have paid the same amount for the total cigar.

Now if you want to get really anal i would calculate the mass of the tobacco from the density and/or calculate the shape of the cigar lol. Maybe Lee's insomnia is catching, off to smoke something i think .

[Lilyboo]

Maybe Lee's insomnia is catching, off to smoke something i think .

Did you smoke it all? Good time to smoke I normally find, just as the dun is coming up and you get peace and quiet to really enjoy it!

[jibjob79]

Did you smoke it all? Good time to smoke I normally find, just as the dun is coming up and you get peace and quiet to really enjoy it!

Just went for a RyJ tubo as I didn't fancy anything too strong on an empty stomach.

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[Lilyboo]

Just went for a RyJ tubo as I didn't fancy anything too strong on an empty stomach.

Nice choice!