Fake or just a bad D4?

[Boss Hog]

Anyone ever heard of a fake D4 before?

I lit one up earlier and right from the start it was falling to bits. Then just below the band it felt like there was a hollow spot, it also felt too spongey.
So much so that I could almost squeeze it flat and it would spring back again?? The ash was dark and flakey and peeled outwards not a tight light grey ash.

I didn't think much to the taste either, in the end after the first third I got rid of it and went for an trusted Rocky.
I've got a 3 left in the humi, these were all about 6 months old and had sourced them as singles from a supplier who I wont mention but are all familiar with.
Of the 3 I've got left 2 seem a bit suspect and seem the same overly spongey hollow feel to them and compared to the 3rd the wrapper is a lot lighter in colour.
I dont ever remember having a decent one of these but have kept buying the odd one or two to give them a 2nd, 3rd chance.
Have I been unlucky again or picked up a fake?

[skyhigh]

Never had a spongy one, had a couple that were a tad tight , other than that they're great.Had one today that was an 09 and it was bloody marvelous.

[mackem keith]

sorry to hear this from past experience ive never had a bad one yet whether it was a single or box purchase but ive mentioned before i have a box from 08 and they are fantastic

[G-man]

U poor sod you. If it smokes like a fake and tastes like a fake and burns like a fake chances are its Fake. Sorry for your luck and hope you get to smoke one that you enjoy.

[crslaytor]

Hm weird.
I've never had fake one and i am keep on getting them from so many different places, but you never know...
if you don't like it, you just don't like it..
get something you like and forget about it just my opinion..

[eggopp]

my fav cigar, like everyone else says, never had a fake one, maybe you shuld name and shame the swiss supplier.. its not like your advertising the products, but maybe a dont use these people ever sticky!! then over time see how many other un-reputable ires there are..

[Big J]

Love the D4's! I never had a bad one or a fake one.
I seen fakes D4's in Mexico.

Boss, sounds like you just don't like them...it's just not your taste profile.
Forget about them and move on to something else.

[moppy]

Damn shame since from what I hear they're pretty amazing smokes!

Did anyone tell you Im the resident wastebin for fakes?

[rollzst]

Fake or just a bad D4?

Sounds to me like you may have stored them at too high a humidity

[cj121]

Probably bad QC issue Mark. Very unlucky and what a shit, especially when you're looking forward to a smoke. I've had a couple of JL2s with 'hollow' spots. Poorly filled/rolled methinks.

[cj121]

I note you've grabbed a few singles over a period of time Mark. I was thinking, maybe some vendors, erm select shall we say, particular cigars for single sales

I wouldn't give give up on them Mark. Perhaps a 10ct box, at a later date, is in order to restore some faith in the D4?

[Boss Hog]

Sounds to me like you may have stored them at too high a humidity

I store them at 64-65%, hygro recently tested and is spot on. These werent spongey through humidity they were like that as there was a huge gap under the wrapper and binder. I've pulled it apart now and there is section cut out of the leaves like a big bite mark.

Big J - I dont think its the brand, the SP2 and P5 are one of my all time faves.

[Boss Hog]

D to the G

U poor sod you. If it smokes like a fake and tastes like a fake and burns like a fake chances are its Fake. Sorry for your luck and hope you get to smoke one that you enjoy.

You might want to check your batch, I think I sent you some in your last parcel from the same batch.

Just top it up with a bit of sawdust if theres any gaps and send it on to someone else!!
Sit back & light up a bahia maduro instead!!

[Robusto]

I adore D4s and I've got to buy some more!...

[Dragon]

you should contact the retailer. see what they say. take a picture of the offending article and email it to them. I'm sure you would get a good response.

This does sound an uncommon problem and a quality retailer will want to know about any problems.

If they don't then there are plenty of others who would be happy to take your hard earned cash from you.