Test it yourself

[tommy]

Cause the seal on the tube slows down the exchange of air and they will be at a higher humidity inside than the rest of your humi one of the reason you will find tubos can be prone to mold.

Also the oils would be retained hey. Now I'm definitely no expert in any way but as the boy of the bag has wisely said those oils are likely to be the reason for the shrinkage IMO as the water content should remain constant one everything (cigars and humi) is acclimatised. That's how it seems to me. I think over time those tubes do lose their water and oils but it has to be seriously slowed. My question would be this, what would the effect of sealing in the water and oil as opposed to letting them constantly breath. I'm guessing that as the preferred method is to age in STB Cabs, the optimal configuration is tightly packed in little boxes which are kept in a cigar haven.

[tommy]

I have to say that the old stuff I have do have loose bands but nothing that I've purchased in my short smoking history has yes shown signs of shrinkage. I think the oldest stock I have that I have aged from new stock is about 15 month, but I'm not sure if they will lose water if I've kept them properly. I think I'm going with the oil loss. So goys to stop shrinkage keep them oily. I've just had an idea for winkie Cream!

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[rascal]

Also the oils would be retained hey. Now I'm definitely no expert in any way but as the boy of the bag has wisely said those oils are likely to be the reason for the shrinkage IMO as the water content should remain constant one everything (cigars and humi) is acclimatised. That's how it seems to me. I think over time those tubes do lose their water and oils but it has to be seriously slowed. My question would be this, what would the effect of sealing in the water and oil as opposed to letting them constantly breath. I'm guessing that as the preferred method is to age in STB Cabs, the optimal configuration is tightly packed in little boxes which are kept in a cigar haven.

The shrinkage does not mean you are deffo losing the oils in the cigar as the main component that its losing is water, the bands are applied when the water content of the cigar is a lot higher than you would smoke it at. Some people believe that you need to periodically open cigar boxes to let them breathe other people vacuum seal there boxes for ageing. Now sealing does slow the aging process in my belief but to who is right and wrong only a long experiment would let me make up my own mind. The ageing in SLB cabs for me is cause I prefer my cigars round and they seal a lot better than dress boxes.

But there is a difference between shrunk cigars and the cigar not being strangled by the band

[cigarsam]

Totaly agree with you on that one but can you explain why the ones in the tubes which are different brand but same year haven't shrunk.

I think that it is fair to say that no humidor is 100% tight, the wood is breathing. Even if one maintains their humidor at a good level, this is due to an input of water or somesuch. Therefore cigars that are out of their tubes will lose comparatively more fluid, causing them to shrink. In my opinion vacuum packing cigars or any other method to keep them more water tight than even a tube in a humidor defeats the object of ageing.

[TJCoro]

breath...

I think that it is fair to say that no humidor is 100% tight...

nor should they be in my view by design unless it used for a terrarium

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[cigarsam]

nor should they be in my view by design unless it used for a terrarium

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Do you use one of those to keep your bags so pristine?

[TJCoro]

i just believe in me

Do you use one of those to keep your bags so pristine?

i have no ideas waht you talk about cigarsam but thank u just the same for kind words

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[butternutsquashpie]

i have no ideas waht you talk about cigarsam but thank u just the same for kind words

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don't worry cigsam,
TJ's gone comeplete mongoloidal since you've left...

[TonyN]

Never said your tubos had mold, said they are more prone to mold as the tube can become over humidified as is designed to hold humidity in. Do you get what I am saying about the reason your cigars in your tubos are at a higher humidity (The reason the bands are tight and not loose like the other sticks in your humi) Though I do suspect your humi is not running at 69 rh if your bands are coming loose in short time period.

Just don't see the point in boveda making packs of 72% if high humidity causes mould i know the 84% is to season a humidor.
Well the 65% if humidors are not airtight that 65% humidity pack won't be reading what it says on it.
If they say we loose 1 or 2 percent humidity maybe then getting a 72% will bring it down to 69 to 70.
Think the most popular bought bovedas are the 69% ones
Which ones are the rest of the members useing if useing bovedas.

[cigarmo]

I use 69. The 72 is probably for not well sealed humi I would prefer the 65

[PeeJay]

Tony don't forget that a wooden humidor sucks 2% out of it as well Unknown-8.jpeg

[TonyN]

Tony don't forget that a wooden humidor sucks 2% out of it as well [ATTACH=CONFIG]19777[/ATTACH]

If thats the case PJ surely it's best to go for the 72% minus the 2% should keep humidity at 70% whoever prefers their cigars on that kind of humidity
are you a boveda user if so which ones are you useing yourself.

[PeeJay]

I use them in my Lock''locks which are plastic of course and tend to use 65s and 69s. I have some 72s that I use occasionally if I need to use a wooden cigar box as an overflow. In my humidors I use gel crystals.

[TonyN]

Thanks for that PJ
Be intresting to see what other members use in their desk top humidors 65%... 69%...72%...

[Simon G]

I use 69% in my humi