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  • #16
    The one I had was average and I found the shorts to be much better (as well as RASS and Bolivar RC). That said, I know they are meant to be inconsistent so will definitely be picking another one up to try at some point.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by peanutpete View Post
      they seem to be one of the more inconsistent cigars (they are also one of the most popular so hence the reason) I loved my 08s now sadly finished my 2010 are junk but my 2012 show real promise
      Is ts simply a supply and demand thing then? The demand is high so standards drop?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by DannyBoy View Post
        Is ts simply a supply and demand thing then? The demand is high so standards drop?
        That might be an oversimplification of the situation, but close enough. Cuba needs hard currency and there are only so many things the island can export. Tourism, medical field, nickel, tobacco and sugar make up the lion's share of the exports. I don't think there is a supply/demand issue with regular production cigars on the consumer end as much as it is on the Cuban government side. Being a state owned company the push is there to make X amount of boxes. If quality suffers from time to time so be it. The cigars they produce are unique in that they can't be replicated down to a T anywhere else in the world. No matter what money talks.
        Long is the way, and hard, that out of hell leads up to light. ― John Milton, Paradise Lost

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        • #19
          Dannyboy, the pipes from the heckling peanut gallery have called.

          And tis a beautiful tune. Listen:
          Originally posted by peanutpete View Post
          they seem to be one of the more inconsistent cigars (they are also one of the most popular so hence the reason) I loved my 08s now sadly finished my 2010 are junk but my 2012 show real promise

          but seriously: yea, i've always hated them. but that's probably just because i'm a party pooper... literally! damn partagas
          i ended up bombing away or trading or selling my original stock. only ones i have now are the bombs that i will never give away and am forced to smoke but i'm pretty sure i'll enjoy them in some level or another!
          Originally posted by ValeTudoGuy
          Marc's a Fat Molly
          Click here for a fun, relevant song!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by DannyBoy View Post
            So... I've tried, I really tried to like these but I just don't get it. Am I missing something

            .... I've tried, and still have a few more to carry on the trying with .... but to be honest I don't expect much. As far as I'm concerned the only virtue the PSD4 has going for it is .... it's cheap! For around the same sort of money the SLR Regios is IMO far better!

            But for those who love 'em, I'm happy for them to smoke them all and not bomb, pass or MAW one to me .... ever!
            If you want to, you can.
            And, if you can, you must!

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            • #21
              Originally posted by tippexx View Post
              .... I've tried, and still have a few more to carry on the trying with .... but to be honest I don't expect much. As far as I'm concerned the only virtue the PSD4 has going for it is .... it's cheap! For around the same sort of money the SLR Regios is IMO far better!

              But for those who love 'em, I'm happy for them to smoke them all and not bomb, pass or MAW one to me .... ever!
              YEAH!........ Send em all my way.
              Licky Licky before Sticky Sticky. - Puff Scotty 22/03/14

              Originally posted by PeeJay
              I get longing looks from guys walking past

              Originally posted by butternutsquashpie
              A purge follows a rapid puffing session.

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              • #22
                2010 was a good year for D4's.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Pandyboy View Post
                  2010 was a good year for D4's.
                  tad of an understatement, but
                  Originally posted by ValeTudoGuy
                  Marc's a Fat Molly
                  Click here for a fun, relevant song!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Pandyboy View Post
                    2010 was a good year for D4's.
                    And 08
                    Love Life - Love Cigars

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by butternutsquashpie View Post
                      tad of an understatement, but
                      You're so funny, not!

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