'House' Characteristics?

[monkey66]

For me Trinidad and Cohiba are quite good, Upmann not bad, Monte quite good, Por Laranaga good.

It is not that they are all bad it is just blending is very inconsistent so it takes a while to learn the profiles.

[butternutsquashpie]

It is not that they are all bad it is just blending is very inconsistent so it takes a while to learn the profiles.

Ah. That's what you meant!!
I was a tad worried when you opened up with two examples that were post revolutionary..
No matter, you've laid my quarrels to rest.

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[Sligub]

Aye. Couldn't have explained THAT better..


But come in here dear boy, have a cigar and let me wove you a tale of the history of some lines of cigars:

The Dunhill cigar is currently a holy grail of many of the members on this site. I've had a mate of mine who was lucky enough to get his hands on one from 1980 (or 1960, i have no idea.... always mix up my 6s and 8s) for a wholesome sum of $800. Now, you think this wouldn't always be like this.. you're wrong. Dunhill has always been amazing. Catering to both King George V AND Churchill himself, the brand got international fame as well as awe.
Of course, King George and Churchill was before Cuba's revolution so a nice wholesome market was established in order to push it out the more people. This meant they needed advertisements, which included Churchill and George who smoked them in public.. all for the ability to custom the cigar to THEIR tastes. The dunhills then catered to Churchills tastes and most dunhills would be tweaked to what the big man wanted himself.
Now with that out of the way, most of the other cigars aren't really manufactured THAT way. This is because a family (Ramon and Allones created Ramon Allones, etc, etc) or organisation sets up their cigars and does it their way.. not to any specific person. This creates a decent variation even within a brand. ESPECIALLY in strength.. not just in taste.
For example: Cohiba is nice, grassy, and mild. But the Lancero is a midget in strength when you compare it to the Siglo IV. The siglo IV is, however, a midget in strength when compared to the standard Partagas D4, which is a giant in strength when compared to a Partagas Short. I gave you two cigars from each brand so you have a general idea of strength variations but taste variations.. there's NO way to objectively calibrate them.. WHICH is why cigars are so damn awesome!!
Those are normal standard production cigars so there's no need to cater to specifics when there is a lack of (A) a large need to advertise due to the communist capitalist system of Cuban cigar manufacturers and (B) a lack of a person to really tweek regular production cigars to. Sure you'll hear the Che G. loved the Montecristo #4s, but that's not because MC catered TO Che Guvera.. more because Che just liked the 4s because they were none other than: The Montecristo Number Four.

One thing that each brand DOES have though, is what tippy mentioned: the same fields and tobacco grown methods. (much more different from sungrown, or shade or Connecticut or habanos. Try to think of it as Cognac: where no where else can produce Cognac because no where else has the backing knowledge, climate conditions, family traditions, soil acidity, etc.) This means they will have similar tastes. 6 months in, you should be able to recognise a cohiba even with its band removed.. it's quite different from all the other brands. Same with partagas... and later on: bolivar, Montecristo, H. Upmann..... etc etc etc

When you find old discontinued brands, they normally DO have people who tweaked and therefore streamlined tastes. but the ones you and i will smoke on the weekly basis? forget about it!

Someone's been telling you porkies mate, while George and winnie did shop at dunhill, dunhill cigars ( cuban) were fist produced in '82 a good 15 years after they both died. Churchill smoked RyJ and La Aroma de Cuba.

[monkey66]

Someone's been telling you porkies mate, while George and winnie did shop at dunhill, dunhill cigars ( cuban) were fist produced in '82 a good 15 years after they both died. Churchill smoked RyJ and La Aroma de Cuba.

Although there were plenty of Dunhill branded/editions of the traditional Cuban marcas.

[butternutsquashpie]

Someone's been telling you porkies mate,

awwwwwww, now the story isn't as interesting
Thanks for correcting the info though!

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[big bopper]

to be honest, i learned loads from this forum when i started smoking cigars and got great advice that lessened the learning curve, and saved me a bunch of money that i would've otherwise wasted!! i hope i can help spread that great wisdom and advice that was passed to me onto new guys like yourself!! anything else you wish to know, no matter how silly you may think it sounds, just ask, you'll find a lot of helpful comrades on here!!
"he who asks a question is a fool for five minutes! he who doesn't ask a question remains a fool forever!"

alex

Exactly, I probably read 100 posts for every one I make and even then it'll likely be a question stemming from an idle thought whilst enjoying a stick (like this one!).

Some great knowledge and responses from everyone, thanks.

[TJCoro]

'House' Characteristics?

Aye. Couldn't have explained THAT better..

But come in here dear boy, have a cigar and let me wove you a tale of the history of some lines of cigars.....:

ZZZZzzzz... Oh! Sorry lad. Must have dozed off while you were woving your yawn...err, I mean, yarn.

Now then...you were saying?

Names Ray Jay, and I feel like I'm almost hypnotized!

[Puff Scotty]

ZZZZzzzz... Oh! Sorry lad. Must have dozed off while you were woving your yawn...err, I mean, yarn.

Now then...you were saying?

Names Ray Jay, and I feel like I'm almost hypnotized!

I found it interesting..my Dad had always tried to get me interested in fairy tales..the same time as he gave me my pocket money...

[TJCoro]

I found it interesting..my Dad had always tried to get me interested in fairy tales..the same time as he gave me my pocket money...

Haha! Don't get me wrong, amigo. I'm sure it's quite interesting...no doubt. Just to many words, many of which are quite large!

Ray Jay